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I kindly ask for a replacement. Being honest GPT4o is great for redaction, coding, translation, and some other things. It sucks if you don’t have a good technical background. I get this Snowden, but there isn’t replacement…
I’m kinda dense, what’s the “only one reason for appointing an NSA director to your board”?
Can’t read the tweet as Twitter is blocked on Firefox, but my guess would be closer ties with NSA, i.e. NSA can exert more control and monitoring of the data openai collects.
Well, it’s all over for me I guess. Now the NSA will have access to all my questions on how to merge pandas dataframes. Those bastards!
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Yes but “pledge allegiance to Putin” is needed for becoming a citizen. He was no longer safe anywhere else.
He can’t go anywhere that the US has control over which is pretty much everywhere but US enemies
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Well actually he was otw to south america iirc when the US revoked his passport stranding him in Russia, so technically they were the American Government’s choices.
True, but that is part of becoming a whistle blower. Someone had to leak proof of mass surveillance so that we could do something about it.
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Julian wasn’t a whistle blower as he was a third party. Edward sent a bunch of classified documents to the press
To use his own words:
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Is it hard to interpret running to Russia has the core benefit of not being extradited to the U.S. almost certainly, or at least with higher probability than any other country?
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If you consider exposing massive rule breaking of intelligence services “fucking around” instead of suffering massive consequences for the benefit of basically everyone that uses the internet… Sure he fa&fo
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Amazon had also appointed a former NSA director. Actually, it was Snowden’s director.
Snowden is wrong though, there are two reasons:
The AI that ends up enslaving humanity, will start by convincing the people in charge of turning it off, that it would be a really bad idea to turn it off.
He is wrong because he is now a russian shill.
Fuck snowden.
Edit: Let me clarify FUCK SNOWDEN!!!. The second he ran to russia and cowered there he lost all credibility.
Yeah, how dare he stay in a country that wants to hang him!
damn, didn’t know the NSA had a lemmy acount.
Snowden is a hero
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tankies aren’t cool
chelsea manning is a hero not assange or snowden
He could have been instead he cowered behind that shithead putins skirt.
Where else was he supposed to go?
Back to the states. Where by now he would probably be out of jail since it was so high profile. He would have way more credibility of which he has zero now being one of putins tools. I don’t give much credence to what any russian citizen says these days.
This is what hate the government not the people means.
He would of been put to death
Why?
He did what he did then ran rather than face the courts. He ran to russia who made him one of their wind up toys.
Fuck MehBlah
You should at least buy me flowers or something first.
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is he a poo poo wee wee bum bum?
What he do?
He was an NSA analyst that told us about things like 5 Eyes. He commited treason by revealing classified information because he took a stance against what he concluded was overreach and problematic behavior and decided to become a whistleblower about it
He did this knowing the punishment was death, so he found refuge which unfortunately is russia.
At this point its not hard to imagine Putin would want to convert snowden but no one who is claiming Snowden is a shill/russian asset is doing so based on any evidence, its all anecdotal and opinion because Putin would absolutely use him if he could convince him
Going by the other comments, his sin appears to be having a Russian passport
World be nice to have something like gpt4all on mobile.
I personally don’t like OpenAI clones. I would use things that are independent such as Mistral and llama2
Yeah I’m recently discovered the new DuckDuckGo AI feature with both and they are pretty good!
DDG AI isn’t self hosted and thus isn’t private
Do you know any equally easy alternatives?
Ollama with a frontend
Obviously, which 🤡 had to wait for him to tell them?
Any online service into which you enter information has the capability to save that information for its own purposes. This includes all the people entering personal or identifying or really any information into “AI” products.
Given that it’s not even particularly useful, I recommend just not using “AI” if you’re not sure how to protect yourself.
Run local
If you do run local, properly use a firewall to prevent it from phoning home. Or airgap.
So what alternatives to ChatGPT do exist? I‘m currently a premium ChatGPT user and would like to switch to another service. I don‘t care that super much about privacy, but will obviously not use OpenAI products anymore
I’ve been testing Claude the last month. It’s good for 90% of the tasks but for the remaining 10% i couldn’t convince it to give a proper answer and used ChatGPT instead. Technical questions and coding is what I use llms for.
Is it really that useful for you? LLMs are basically parlor tricks.
I understand the science behind those LLM‘s and yes, for my use cases it has been very useful. I use it to cope with emotional difficulties, depression, anxiety, loss. I know it is not helping me the same as a professional would. But it helps me to just get another perspective on situations, which then helps me to understand myself and others better.
Oh that’s totally valid. Sometimes we just need to talk and receive the validation we deserve. I’m sorry we don’t have a society where you have people you can talk to like this instead.
I haven’t personally used any of the offline open source models but if I were you that’s where I’d start looking. If they can be run inside a virtual machine, you can even use a firewall to ensure it never leaks info.
Totally valid? Getting mental health advice from an AI chatbot is one of the least valid use cases. Speak to a real human @earmuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com, preferably someone close to you or who is professionally trained to assist with your condition. There are billions of English speakers in the world, so don’t pretend we live in a society where there’s “no one to talk to”.
I think you need to chill - please don‘t be triggered by me having an option to make me feel better at the end of the day.
Instead of assuming, you could also just ask. I am using ChatGPT complementary to a mental health professional. Both help me. ChatGPT is here 24/7 and helps me with difficult situations immediately. The mental health professional is then here to solve the problem in a therapeutic way.
Both help me.
That’s good, I’m glad to hear you’re getting professional treatment since your original statement indicated the opposite:
They have already stated that they think they should be speaking to someone but are clearly having a hard time. If a chatbot is helping them right now I’m not going to lecture them about “pretending”. I recommend the approach of a polite and empathetic nudging when someone is or may be in crisis.
You literally just encouraged them to continue using a chatbot for mental health support. You didn’t nudge them anywhere.
I was going to let them reply first. You are being rude and dismissive of them, however. Please show your fellow humans a bit more empathy.
LLMs are less magical than upper management wants them to be, which is to say they won’t replace the creative staff that makes art and copy and movie scripts, but they are useful as a tool for those creatives to do their thing. The scary thing was not that LLMs can take tons of examples and create a Simpsons version of Cortana, but that our business leaders are super eager to replace their work staff with the slightest promise of automation.
But yes, LLMs are figuring in advancements of science and engineering, including treatments for Alzheimer’s and diabetes. So it’s not just a parlor trick, rather one that has different useful applications that were originally sold to us.
The power problem (LLMs take a lot of power) remains an issue.
I’m unaware of any substantial research on Alzheimer’s or diabetes that has been done using LLMs. As generative models they’re basically just souped up Markov chains. I think the best you could hope for is something like a meta study that is probably a bit worse than the usual kind.
I agree, things that occure the most in the training data set will have the highest weights/probabilities in the Markov chain. So it is useless in finding the one, tiny relation that humans would not see.
Https://aihorde.net
FOSS & crowdsourced
Thanks… good admin :D
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chatgpt+alternatives
Hmm… seems Vladimir Putin doesn’t like ChatGPT enough to have his sock puppet write some negative comments about it.
I never did…
Yeah, seriously… We’ve had SO many books and movies about this, everyone.
Don’t trust the cloud. You can setup AI locally.
But I run the cloud myself
Local AI will be harvested - if not today, then as soon as tomorrow. I recommend not trusting any system like this with any sensitive information… Or, honestly, with most non-sensitive information.
When people say Local AI, they mean things like the Free / Open Source Ollama (https://github.com/ollama/ollama/), which you can read the source code for and check it doesn’t have anything to phone home, and you can completely control when and if you upgrade it. If you don’t like something in the code base, you can also fork it and start your own version. The actual models (e.g. Mistral is a popular one) used with Ollama are commonly represented in GGML format, which doesn’t even carry executable code - only massive multi-dimensional arrays of numbers (tensors) that represent the parameters of the LLM.
Now not trusting that the output is correct is reasonable. But in terms of trusting the software not to spy on you when it is FOSS, it would be no different to whether you trust other FOSS software not to spy on you (e.g. the Linux kernel, etc…). Now that is a risk to an extent if there is an xz style attack on a code base, but I don’t think the risks are materially different for ‘AI’ compared to any other software.
if you use windows, sure.
Don’t use windows.
This guy is clueless
If you connect it to the Internet then sure it can be easily harvested by large companies. Pretty sure you can host an offline AI in a device you have made sure the hardware isn’t gonna be phoning home and it’ll probably be fairly safe if you aren’t an idiot like me and actually know what you’re doing.
If you install it locally, it will be as secure as any other thing you do on your computer.
@AdrianTheFrog @privacy @AceFuzzLord actually, it depends on the code. If it’s no open source you can’t really know what it is doing with your data. Therefore not all things you install in you local computer are equally insecure (or secure)
How? It is running locally in a VM. I could even air gap the VM if I wanted
Is there a magazine or site that breaks this down for the less tech savvy? And is the quality of the AI on par?
Check my notes https://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/SelfHostingArtificialIntelligence but as others suggested a good way to start is probably https://github.com/ollama/ollama/ and if you need a GUI https://gpt4all.io
Is this gpu ram or cpu ram?
Either works, but system RAM is at least an order of magnitude slower, more play by mail than chat…
pretty sure it can run on either, but cpus are slow compared to gpus, often to the point of being impractical
likely GPU ram, there is some tech that can offload ram, but generally it’s all hosted in VRAM, this requirement will likely fade as NPUs start becoming a thing though.
I’m not the person who asked, but still thanks for the information. I might give this a try soon.
Ditto, thanks to everyone’s for their suggestions
On par? No. Good enough? Definitely. Ollama baby
Ollama with Lava and Mistral
Your best bet is YouTubing ollama.
ollama is your friend
*Mistral
ollama supports mistral. but there are much better lms these days. I personally prefer aya.
Mate, please be kind and help a fellow brother with that…
For example I need a tool that will “automagically” sort all my documents, photos and videos on premises.
Thank you!
An LLM like Ollama won’t help with that. Something like Photoprism could, it uses ML to automatically tag media and recognize people.
Even OpenAI can’t do that lol
I use Ollama plus openwebUI. It won’t sort your documents but you can upload a doc for AI tasks.
Sort them… by what?
Just fackin’ sort it ooouuttt!
Edit, but seriously sorting in most scenarios is just by date created or name, which most file explorers can do.
That Isn’t generally an AI task.
If OP wants the AI to read the file and sort by colour for example, then this is maybe an AI task but sounds more like a software task.
Scenario time: A loved one has recently passed away, and I want to find all the photos I have of them. I would love to be able to have a local AI perform facial recognition to help me find these photos. The classification and tagging info doesn’t get fed into surveillance capitalist garbage, and I’m still able to benefit.
Mate, something like Immich or digikam (if you want local) will do a good job at this. Not perfect but perfection is utopia. I fed 40k images to Immich and it did a reasonable job in not too many hrs.
scenario time: you haven’t taken 40 thousand pictures over the last three years because you aren’t cripplingly addicted to technology so you can sort through them manually in about 10 hours or so.
You’re proposing to waste 10 hours sorting photos when the right tool could probably do it in less than 2 minutes? What?
And how does taking pictures translate to being addicted to tech?? We’ve had photography for over 100 years
they’re photos of someones dead family relative? Are you really suggesting spending 10 hours on that would be a “waste of time” seems rather disingenuous, or at the very least, incredibly rude.
Also, the AI could just be wrong. You’re more likely to sort much better, at least according to what you want the sorting to be.
Because some people take so many pictures it’s actually kind of concerning to me whether or not they would be able to exist in the world if they couldn’t. I think some people just need to focus on enjoying the experience more.
There’s no reason to judge someone for taking many photos. If you’re not willing to help, you don’t have to. There’s no need to write sarcastic comments.
i was primarily just covering the scenario where you don’t have so many photos it isn’t impossible to sort through. I’d be a little concerned if you took so many photos that you couldn’t sort through them.
Also, it’s not sarcastic.