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Mullvad, they have a feature called DAITA

Thanks, for reference https://mullvad.net/en/vpn/daita but as it’s an arm race I wouldn’t assume it’s the perfect solution.


No idea what your analogy about non conventional medicine is about. Feel free to explain.

just be visible to your home network’s ISP instead of your phone’s ISP.

Indeed, which is already what I mentioned, namely another group. It’s about the threat model namely if you trust one ISP more than another. I believe your understood that but chose not to acknowledge it and I’m not sure why but maybe it related to your analogy that I didn’t get.

Edit: if you and others are interested in the topic I recommend https://splintercon.net/ plenty of resources on the topic.

PS: FWIW I didn’t suggest VPN is the solution to all problems but they do alleviate some. The point is one must understand both how they work and their threat model.


I’'d argue changing who can see your data from either a large group to a smaller one or one you do trust vs one you do not trust precisely is protecting your privacy.

Also FWIW you can host your VPN, you do not have to rely on a commercial VPN provider.


a VPN doesn’t protect your privacy

Does from your ISP unless they do deep packet inspection and related techniques.


I’m lazy, bought my phone from Murena, they deGoogled it for me.


I suggest to explain what " 5-week degoogle challenge" actually mean.

Does it mean people who join have 5 weeks to remove Google from their lives? If so how?


With pleasure, if you want more on the topic, not Linux specific though, you might find https://video.benetou.fr/w/p/q8C2p1Aky9uVPrPShMrAxK interesting.



True but wouldn’t also literacy be about knowing what defaults are and how to change them?

Helping others is nice but if it’s babysitting rather than raising them up, then they can’t in turn help others.


A good example to “play” with could be https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ which does highlight the idea of “bits of identifying information” namely :

“A “bit” is a basic unit of information for computers. The bit represents a logical state with one of two possible values, often represented as “1” or “0”, for example. In your results from Cover Your Tracks, some metrics may be listed as “1” or “0”, or “true” or “false”, indicating whether a setting is enabled or disabled. While each individual metric’s details may seem like a small amount of information, when combined with your browser’s other metrics, they can uniquely identify your browser. Your results are measured in “bits of identifying information,” which is a combined summary of all these metrics.”

Point being, not all behaviors, conscious or not, explicit or not, lead to the same amount of bits. Some are VERY valuable, others are basically pointless. Knowing the difference means not spending a lot of energy fighting without making a difference.


If you are into that could be interesting to learn about metadata, e.g EXIF data, and how anything can be used for fingerprinting. What’s interesting IMHO is to pragmatically know how valuable a specific piece of data or metadata is useful for fingerprinting, namely how identifying it truly is. For example knowing if a file comes from Android or iOS is too generic to be useful whereas timestamp with geolocation data segments the potential space a lot more.


Indeed, IMHO what’s important here is precisely WHY the question is asked, namely is it to evaluate agency, passion as a proxy for skills potentially, or the opportunity to exploit.


I mean again my initial reaction would be that indeed … BUT it depends. If they genuinely offer say 3x rate, it’s on demand from MY side (not the client), double vacations, etc then maybe. Again it has to be something that’s actually interesting.

Sadly this is not even .001% the case, usually companies consider the weekend an extension of the week and such cases, they can absolutely go get fucked.


quick test as to if they’re your people or not

Absolutely… it’s like when during job interview the recruiter ask if you code on the weekend. Some people treat that like the absolute worst question ever. Yes, in most cases I would argue it’s to probe if you can be abused by working over time for free… but maybe you are into that or rather you do have found a way to make it work, e.g. NOT work during some weekdays. The point is that the question itself is a way to discover BOTH ways, for them AND for you. It is perfectly fine to stop right there and then if any of you is now aware that it’s a show stopper because of whatever difference. The entire purpose of dating or interviews is to engage in a more involving relationship ONLY if it’s worth it for both. It’s a discovery phase, not a “let’s close the sale” phase.



No I did not and I’m not sure what you imagine “regular users” might be. I feel that if someone goes the extra length to get their browser outside of a store, they can do the same with extensions, is it extravagant?



Is https://download-chromium.appspot.com/ not good enough?

I don’t use this as a my main browser though, just for testing. I don’t recommend Chromium backends due to Google control over it.


You do not have to care. I’m only highlighting that according to this community your post is precisely not “informing” much.

Also while checking your history https://lemmy.ml/post/19526546 it seems to be a pattern of misunderstanding then blaming it on others.

I guess that’s what not arguing over petty details like “technical definitions” might result in.

Please do not use Proton if you do not think it’s appropriate for your usage. Please do inform others about problems you do encounter. Please do note though that when you are misrepresenting the situation, e.g. with titles that are shortcuts and thus incorrect, you are NOT helping.


Because you wouldn’t be actually switching so that’s not lock-in, that’s just you expecting free stuff forever.

Anyway, I understand your point. I also want free stuff and I also want all my free stuff to be exactly what I need. My criticism is more than you selecting a provider, not paying for it, know what the problem is then complain it’s not what you need despite knowing it in advance. What also was problematic for me is that your title is not correct.

Finally, maybe you are technically right (which I do not believe) but you can see from the total number of downvotes to your post and the upvotes on my comments that, at least in this community, your interpretation is being critical.

To end on a pragmatic note : please PLEASE do get funding (it does not have to be your own money) for Proton to provide forwarding for free for all email addresses. I’m sure nobody on this community would complain about that, I surely won’t!

PS: if you are into lock-in and tech, consider reading “Information Rules: A Strategic Guide to the Network Economy” by Carl Shapiro and Hal R. Varian - ISBN 087584863X - Harvard Business Press 1998 and if it’s a bit too much here are my notes on it https://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/InformationRules written 15 years ago.


Maybe I’m missing something, do you often communicate via email to your bank?

I know I do not. Pretty much never ever. That being said if I were to have to, rather than via their website or phone call, I can update that data on my bank account. I’m sure I must go through few (security) hoops to do it but I doubt it takes me more than 5min. In such case… I would put whatever email and I need to switch because I don’t want to pay for that domain anymore then I would just update my contact information there.

TL;DR: I also use my own domain name for banking but in my case I’d argue it doesn’t matter much.


if you think switching from gmail is hard, just wait until

I actually did switch from GMail so… I feel like I’m a relatively good place to talk about precisely this problem.

It also was very easy because I used my own domain back then. I switched from GMail to Proton and nobody noticed. I didn’t have to change 1 single account or warn 1 single person.

OP is not talking about switch email providers in general but rather a very specific case which is indeed problematic but is not IMHO related to lock-in.


The details might be technically correct but then the title is rage bait.


Then they should change their title to say free email addresses only.


Yes, paranoia is not healthy. When people can’t formulate a realistic threat model then usually to be “safe” they assume everyone is out there to get them … while failing the most basic steps, e.g. not relying on surveillance capitalist fueled tools voluntarily.


Nothing is preventing you from changing those email addresses to the one you now have on your own domain.

The ignorance from OP is not vendor lock-in.


No, Proton email addresses do not. I have ProtonMail addresses using my domain. If tomorrow I point to another email provider, Proton can do nothing about it.

Being paid feature vs free is not vendor lock-in.

You are spreading misinformation, either by misrepresenting the situation or by not understanding what “vendor” (an arguable term since apparently you are focusing on the free version) is lock-in means.


| works well for krita / excalidraw / xournalapp

Why Android though rather than Linux proper if your main apps are these?


No color proper though. I have the rM 2 and the new rM Pro and its amazing to sketch notes but draw art… not really.


enforce their privacy while using the web.

Welcome, so I can recommend

  • actually using the Web, not apps, namely Meta control the content sure but not the browser and browser vendors are trying their best to make the experience safe
  • not using a browser made by a vendor that is in fact an ad company
  • using a browser with privacy measures, e.g Enhanced Tracking Protection
  • use 3rd party extensions, e.g. uBlock Origin, AdBlock Plus, DeArrow, Ghostery, JS Shelter
  • use containers or private mode when browsing doubtful content

can’t access any GitHub repositories without having to sign in. This is becoming frustrating.

Yes… also can’t search.

This is supposed to be OPEN source yet, enshittification by Microsoft here goes down its inexorable path. It started nicely then slowly but surely popular features are blocked behind restrictions, unpopular features are shoved down people through, more marketing is used to try to convince users are actually wrong, etc.

Please, do leave the platform and help others to do so.


Yep, running my own instance for years now.

To be fair though Gitea is by default much lighter than alternatives… because it’s also minimalist. There are but default no runners, no testing environments, etc that e.g. Gitlab provides.


Depends on your threat model. Are you hiding something from random strangers on your network? Your ISP? Apple? The US government? Another government?



What is the main counterargument to this?

True, then enable your SIM when that happens. Not when you have a minor inconvenience but an actual emergency.


I charged with both connected to a PC and connected to my laptop charger but I didn’t measure if it went hotter or faster, both worked.


Never had a problem, how can I check for USB-C PD?


Daily driving /e/OS on CMF Nothing 1 for months now https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-cmf-phone-1/ with 0 tinkering, just bought it and didn’t stop since day 1.

Check my post history for more details (as I discussed a bit more about it just days ago) but basically if deGoogling is important to you (which I imagine since you are posting on the privacy community) then yes, it’s definitely the most pragmatic compromise if you genuinely need Android based apps.


Labor in a country with good unions?


Depends what you are looking for.

If you need a specific Android app that does not work on Waydroid, sure, go for GrapheneOS (or another deGoogled AOSP solution) but if you do no need that (and don’t mind carrying a rather larger phone with limited battery) then PmOS on PP is very interesting to explore.


This is for pedagogical purposes. Please do not cypher actually important messages with this. Anyway I think it can bring with little ones, and adults alike, interesting conversations around : - secrecy - privacy - cryptography as counter-power - mathematics, starting with modulo - the duration a message can stay undecipherable and thus the kind of message to share - computational complexity, how many permutations are available ... and a lot more!
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