Privacy win: Starting today Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy.
tutanota.comWith a fine of only $100,000 Norway could destroy Facebook's & Instagram's business model relying on personalized ads.
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@Ergologia @merde US Citizens: You guys are getting paid?!
I should visit Norway, sounds like there are cool people there.
Yeah and some really good chess players too
From what I’ve been hearing, it’s actually one of the best places to live in.
It’s like a more mountainous Denmark, with a more arrogant population. Awesome place!
Why arrogant?
I wonder why though
Advanced social-democracy.
It’s almost like some countries prioratize the well being of their people…
But I have this in Germany, too. There must be something different i n Norway.
That would be nice. Focus on your own country instead of dumping billions down a hole
I wish WhatsApp get similar treatment also. the entirety of my country depend on it.
Technically WhatsApp is illegal in the EU.
Oh really? How so?
what, really, how is it in the play store then
It is technically illegal, because the app is uploading all data from the phone book of a smartphone (names, phone numbers, email addresses, birthday dates, post addresses, etc.), but Meta argued that the data isn’t saved directly, all get an unique identifier, which is necessary so the app can work. But collecting data from people (who don’t even use WhatsApp) and didn’t agree to it, is illegal in the EU and only replacing a unique number with another unique number doesn’t make a person anonymous. It’s still an identifier.
That’s why I wrote technically, because WhatsApp is still around and Meta might have found a loophole, otherwise a lot of countries couldn’t use WhatsApp and I think Meta had to invest a lot of money to create or find this loophole.
Sad I’m not in EU.
Latin America?
Nope India
Anti revenue stream.
I likey
All the governments should do like this
This is exactly the sort of thing I want governments doing. Let bad businesses fail! Help them down the drain, even.
As much as I hate Meta, this is just going to become a “cost of doing business”. They have $32B in yearly revenue, this would cost them $36.5mil a year, a small drop in the bucket to what they bring in.
Revenue is not profit, and Norway is really small.
If the fine is more than the profit Meta makes from Norway, something will have to change.
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But how much money do they make in norway though? And it’s all a matter of consistently increasing that cost of doing business everywhere
Danegeld.
Danegeld never changes.
Only $100? Thats too little IMO.
It’s one hundred thousand dollars per day.
Europe uses decimals between thousands
Norway isn’t in Europe of course.
Norway is in Europe. It’s not in the EU.
Norway is absolutely 100% in Europe, but it is not part of the EU no.
Ah.
Norway should raise taxes on Facebook.
Meta was also recently ordered to pay a thousand dollars to every brazilian who can prove they were using Facebook in a specific year. Though they are still fighting back on that decision and no payment was made yet.
This will probably be changed into some fixed payment to the government instead, if not overturned completely, but it would be fun to see the whole country getting some extra paychecks for using Facebook.
Facebook should pay it. Imagine the user uptick when people think other countries might get the same payout.
Not enough. The price for violating a human right should be enough to leave anyone bankrupt.
Fines like these should be exponential in some way, that way they can’t keep getting away with it.
Nah, exponentiation is too good for them.
Fines should be tetrated.
You owe us $2
You owe us $4
You owe us $16
You owe us $65536
You owe us $2*10^19729
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Explanation for the downvoters: The double up arrow is the symbol for tetration.
Explanation for dumbs: What is tetration?
2=2
2^2=4
2(22)=2^4=16
2(2(22))=2(24)=216=65,536
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Besides panicking a few regional managers, this can only be a bad news for Meta if other countries, or even better, the EU follows them.
100kUSD/day for a 5.4M inhabitants country, that scales to 8.3M$/day for the total 450M inhabitants EU has (yes: I know that’s not how it works, I’m doing a very gross approximation here).
That’s would be 3B$/year. Now we’re talking!
They have to break the DMA once that’s in effect, 15% of their global yearly revenue is exactly what they deserve!
LOL. To put that in perspective, let imagine it’s some $100,000 annual pay worker. This means Facebook just added 365 employees to their ranks, if they ignored this order completely.
They fire and hire people in the thousands, the penalty is a joke of scale.
Except this is for a single country. Is it worth that kind of expense for 5 million people? Does Facebook make $36.5 million in profit just in Norway? If not, then this is a net loss for them.
For those who are dumb like I am, the fine is one hundred thousand per day and not one hundred per day (the decimal threw me off)
I did not get what you meant at first but yeah most of us europeans us “,” as a decimal and “.” to make bigger numbers more readable
Is this is how it is taught in schools as well? Doesn’t the scientific community use the symbols in the order, i.e, “.” for decimals and “,” to separate thousands, etc.
Most international standards say that either “.” Or “,” can be used as a decimal separator and a space should be used as a thousands seperator.
If people want to use thousands separators (and they should, if they want to not-use prefixes like kilo, Mega) they should use ’ so for example 100’000 $. Zero potential for misunderstandings.
I’m a big fan of just using spaces, so $100 000
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