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It would be better if he posted on Mastodon

Better how?

In every way? No downside to at least having a presence in the fediverse IMO

It doesn’t have the audience.

People who are trying to spread a message might possibly consider that relevant but you know, geek out in the corner with the rest of the “I hate this fact” downvoters 😅

The way it gets an audience is through adoption by some “larger” people, like but not limited to snowden.

Those people start mirroring their twitter on masto, and eventually start mirroring masto on the twitter, then the next time there’s a musk fit they have a place to go ready and can post “due to the actions of this site’s owner, this profile will cease posting. If you wish to continue following me I’ll still be posting on masto.”

People don’t switch now because Ryan Reynolds isn’t on masto yet and what he says is paramount to their survival, once he switches they safely can. (Disclaimer: the use of Ryan Reynolds is purely sardonic, could have used Taylor Swift or whatever hot star of the day you choose.)

He should do both. The message getting to as many people as possible is more important that he posting on Twitter.

You’re just like the ones i hear saying RATM went soft. Stop being a dumbass, it’s infectious for some and the rest of us are embarrassed for you.

This comment isn’t just to get you angry, though it is that too. The second part, here is to tell you that ad hominem is a widely used propaganda method to shut down thought on important topics.

Does where snowden decides to post his message reduce, at all, the content of that message?

Easy! No. Not at all.

So don’t carry water for the ones who silence dissent. It makes you useful to them, and useless to the rest of the world

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The important thing for you to consider is if i did, would what i just said be less true? I invite you to consider this, and not in an Internet fight way where we flex our shit talking muscles at each other, but in a “hey, maybe there is a point worthy of debate” kinda way.

Like id be interested in considering the point that "the messenger does matter. I’m sure there are cases, but they’d be extreme cases to my mind.

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C’mon, we are in a privacy sub. Maybe you should take your frustration with me to pms and ill help you out, privately. The need to fluff your feathers for the others in the room is distracting you.

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Lol ratm plays 10000 people concerts that cost $150+ to buy tickets for while the fans are bombarded with corporate advertisements for the entire time

Fuck them

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See guys? Comments like this one. Note how the premise of my comment was ignored and they engaged in ad hominem, while saying (without saying) that you should ignore them completely. This is the kinda fud to look out for

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Sorry I’m just replying to the bait you put in the first sentence of your comment.

Have fun hanging out with 90s finance bros in the pit while they complain about ratm being too political while sipping their 20 dollar beers

My point is their message definitely has less.meaning when its wrapped in Pepsi and hand sanitizer ads the only people who can afford to pay for it are apathetic die hard fans who are conditioned to ignore the hypocracy and rich assholes who want a night out to say they saw this band before they died.

I was invited to this by one of those die hard fans who bought an extra ticket. The entire experience was absolutely disgusting.

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Don’t apologize, you did a great job. Now id like you to read the entire chain along with snowden’s words so you can catch up on the whole point of this thread. Do this and you’ll be less “object lesson” and more “lesson learned”.

I’ll edit my comment too. See how this commenter is doubling down? They offer nothing, (even couched within their ad hominem), of substance. I mean to say that they disparage the “message” as having "less meaning"without really explaining why.

Indeed, the commenter invites the reader (by agreeing with them) to engage in ‘virtue signaling’ (by again saying without saying), conflating their distaste for corporate sponsorship and expensive tickets (something we all share) with a reason to not listen to RATM at all.

It’s another great example of bad reasoning one might fall prey to if one doesn’t engage in critical thinking.

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No, I’m replying to your reference to an irrelevant band who sold their image warner bros and perpetuates all of this through continuing to tour under these conditions.

Ok, youre one of them who can’t stop replying when their feeling are hurt. Shoot your last shot in, and go smoke a cig or something, cuz it’s the last reply for you today. Ill check in with you later, maybe in a week.

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It doesn’t help that their best song is a cover

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Well said! +1

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People say RATM went soft? I know this isn’t the point of your reply but why do people say that?

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There’s lots of em, some are in the replies you got before mine. The point isn’t whether you believe them, the point of them is to make you not want to listen to RATM. Hell after 9/11 there was a memo put out asking radio stations not to play certain 'anti establishment songs, but only one band was called out specifically for total blackout. Wanna guess which it was?

Their message is powerful, and getting more obviously true every day. I dont give a single fuck about whether they for paid for being a successful band, and neither should anyone with a modicum of understanding in the message they speak.

Regardless, thinking they’re hypocrites isn’t what matters, people are free to think that. The only thing that matters is whether thinking that way stops one from listening to their words, which are true no matter what you think of them. If one decides not to listen don’t because someone said they’re now RWTM, somebody in psyops is happy for their ignorance

Wanna guess which it was?

Reagan Youth?

In U.S., A's for apathy
Not bullshit democracy
Red white and blue is all you see
But does it mean you're really free?

In U.S., A's for anarchy
Not bullshit democracy
I want total liberty
I want peace and anarchy

They tell us how to act and be
Fuck that mental slavery
With standards and authority
How can you think you're really free?
Be proud that you're a white Amerikkkan 
Blonde hair, blue eyes - a fine new aryan 
Supremacy's the white man's burden

A final solution for the new aryans 
Death to the nazis and the ku klux klan!
Anarchy in the fatherland!

Anarchy for the new aryans
No master race is gonna rule this land!

New order?
No order!
New order?
No order!
Disorder! 
Disorder now!
Now
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Probably the people who paid attention to jackholes like Tom Morello walk around shitting on local businesses because “don’t you know who I am.”

https://concreteplayground.com/auckland/arts-entertainment/culture/rage-against-the-machine-guitarist-pulls-a-dont-you-know-who-i-am-on-cafe

Tom and folks like him are way more concerned with the trappings of being famous than they are with actual workers gaining actual rights as evidenced by shitting on a local business because the business was already at capacity and didn’t make room for his “fame.”

He didn’t even do any research on the business before labelling them anti-worker when what they really were were anti-special-treatment-for-famous-people.

You would think Tom Morello of RATM would be on board.

So yeah, soft.

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According to that article, he and the owner of the business patched things up and reached a positive resolution. Continuing to be mad about it 10 years later, particularly when no one involved actually cares, is the most terminally online behaviour. Switch off the phone, go outside and breathe some fresh air.

I’ve never heard soft but I’ve heard hypocritical. Tom morello comes from a wealthy background and went to Harvard, the band censored themselves on tv when asked to do so, they live in gated communities and run elbows with the people who run the machine they are raging against, and they came out and supported Hillary Clinton (who is the definition of the machine). Myself and others aren’t saying they should’ve supported trump (who is also apart of the machine), but they should have called for more grassroots political candidates and supported them.

and they came out and supported Hillary Clinton

With all due respect, what reality do you exist in?

Dude gave up his entire life to send a warning to as many people as possible. You think he’s gonna not post further warnings on Twitter?

I think he’s fully under the control of the Russian government posting on a platform that is owned by a Russian asset.

this cold war propaganda belongs in a museum

He is. He is just another propaganda tool in putins pocket.

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Exactly I find it funny too, why doesn’t he at least mirror his posts to Mastodon or just post on there, it’s just a copy/paste…or is it difficult on Qubes ?

On the other hand, normies are still on Twitter so… I don’t blame him

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Twitter had a TOR service last time I checked, I haven’t seen a single Mastodon instance available as TOR service.

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Twitter had a TOR service last time I checked, I haven’t seen a single Mastodon instance available as TOR service.

TIL Mastodon can be run as tor service : https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/optional/tor/

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Exactly… “had

Check again, it’s broken now…

I haven’t seen a single Mastodon instance available as TOR service.

Kolektiva dot social is Mastodon server for activists, and they have a Onion version, and they never track you like Twitter does…

there is more into the anonymity game than just using TOR, other networks has their own approaches, and TOR is not perfect

Edit: but that’s another subject…

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