Especially in the nordic Europe
we look up to those nations and we say it worked for them, so it’ll work for us, but there are many factors to consider that won’t play the same for you
and i would argue that even when it works, it’s still susceptible to failure, change of rulers, bad policies accumulate quietly, being told to do something unethical for the greater good ( e.g. taxes )
what about other places where it didn’t work? even after years and years of trying ( voting ), what do you call doing the same thing and expecting different results ? … when you try to remove a dictator peacefully and you end up getting bombed, remember that the Syrian protests started with red roses and ended with blood… anyways I feel I’m going way off topic here… but the point is give a central authority too much power and they’ll abuse it, if not now it’ll be later… so just don’t …it’s time to move on, we can organize ourselves without selling our liberties like our right to privacy.
btw, I thought about this, a looong time ago, when I was thinking is this system rigged? young me felt there’s a conspiracy, but now I realize it’s just how it works, it demands control
It’s funny you you say that, because we humans as a species are so fascinating, we harnessed many forces of natue, and we came up with mindblowing ideas, yet when it comes to the concept of a government, we think that’s the only system that can work, and the only way that we can live, it’s sad honestly, governments abuse their power, you can’t get them to stop it… unless you want a bullet…so so much for being civil
if you want to address the root cause of surveillance you should be demanding the government to change it’s ways ? Is that what you’re saying ?
I don’t think it’s the lack of transparency or corruption by the government, I think that the very existence of a government ( a centralized authority ) leads to this sort of behavior, you can’t outsource your power to choose, some of your absolute liberty to a ruler and expect they won’t abuse it, you can’t have your cake and eat it with this system, a system where democracies act as Dictatorships, and sometimes they do it openly and all you can do is watch
It’s difficult to parse when your brain defaults to “one of these parties are unfairly maligned” - when the truth is they’re both shitty.
Oh, glad someone said it… this is a common theme on the Internet 😭… It’s okey
It’s a shame. Some years ago I got a lot of value from both websites, but haven’t really followed digital privacy trends lately.
when you’re a beginner you tend to accept advice from anyone in the field, this makes sense because you don’t know which advice to trust, but once you understand the principle, you look back and just know instantly who gave you bad advice vs good advice…
If someone tells me to use a degoogled phone and later I see they’re using an IPhone, it’s not great look… ( for them )… It’s disappointing ( just an example )
It’s such a time sink to gauge the value of everything by yourself.
Whatelse you can do ? Not much… accept keep on learning, I enjoy these kind of stuff, and the more I learn the more I realize the tools we use aren’t perfect and they have many flaws… in technology I learned to be careful before adopting new technologies and not just jump on the hottest thing, I have to resist the Tech enthusiast within me if I wanna satisfy the privacy advocate ( the opposition within me )
I think I got confused by this Lemmy post claiming it was taken over, not “attempted”. If it was taken over, then why would they shoot themselves in the foot?
They stole their funds, git repos, subreddit… they might as well declare it’s the end of the website even though they still hold ownership to some extent … That’s my understanding of it at least
Privacytools seems shadier though, even if they’re claiming to be victims
I agree
This is all really insane. But there are people here saying that privacyguides are reputable
It is indeed insane, at least PrivacyGuides doesn’t push for shitty products and insult his followers for not supporting him, however toxicity towards other projects ( especially GrapheneOS ) is completely allowed on their channels…
I’m not saying we should cancel them and never speak about them again, but if you’re a fan of PG you should hold them accountable, because they can do better
As for Techlore, 😮💨…I don’t think there’s hope for Henry… he went too far, he earned the title of a “privacy scammer” for me… and the sad part is that he knows it, he knows he’s in it for a quick buck not to spread the message
Defending ? so showing that Techlore is doing the same thing ( actually way more worse ) means I’m defending PT ?
I’m not going into who’s more corrupt than the other, but I can provide a different source, if you think this one is problematic
But yanno why I’m not focusing on Privacy Tools that much…A - because this post is about Techlore. B - Because the project is dead, so what’s the point?
his shit website
Using this language means nothing to me, and doesn’t effect me in anyway shape or form… I have no gain in the matter… they can both be down tomorrow, and I wouldn’t care
There’s no pretending… if you actually click the link the first video is about the practices or Techlore, so I’ll make it easy for you :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cEfJ1UTNvw
The rest of the article, talks ( with proof ) about the betrayal of Jonah Argon, changing the website license for example…
got butthurt when people created better alternatives that actually gave genuine advice instead of ads.
Really ? Sounds like a very childish thing to be mad about… Especially when you realize there are many websites and blogs that are written by experts
I’m not trying to be funny, I’m saying what happened, and simply don’t trust Techlore because or the lack of ethics…and going after the cash grab… What kind of Privacy minded individual drives a Tesla? Uses Apple hardware? Promotes proprietary solutions?
genuine advice instead of ads
Techlore literally said buy my course so you’ll have an ad free experience… And PrivacyGuides covers surface level stuff…
Since you noticed the bias, let me give you the real dark history of both Techlore and PrivacyGuides ( Jonah Argon ) and how they took over Privacy Tools.io and closed their subreddit.
https://www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeover
Don’t trust Privacy YouTubers, trust experts who know what they’re talking about
never ever spread them as the truth.
How did you know it’s not the truth…because I implied it wasn’t… and I don’t see it as something that couldn’t happen, people asked for MicroG support for years…
ROMs without network support.
I’m not a huge fan of trolling
because they get money for doing it,
I can tell you no Open source ROM gets funds by Google, unless if it’s a program… For example GOS received many rewards for discovering vulnerabilities in AOSP
it couldn’t be as degoogled as LOS because LOS is vanilla
This is about to change since LOS are about to include MicroG by default in future releases… Or so I heard from some Mastodon users who shared screenshots about an LOS update that installed MicroG
GOS is private and secure more than any other ROM, but once you install the Unprivileged play store you lose some of that privacy while retaining security, MicroG is private but not as secure
Still it’s a shame that LOS can’t find a better supporter than Google
Wdym?
That’s also not accurate, GOS comes fully degoogled, and doesn’t include any GAPPS or Google Play services, you have to install them yourself if you want compatibility with Google Apps or some banking apps
even though they are sandboxed. There is no way it can be more degoogled than LOS
That’s just false, even LOS isn’t fully degoogled and it still connects to Google in the background for necessary connectivity checks ( e.g. DNS ) and Esim activation for example
There’s a lot of false information in your statements, GrapheneOS is not spyware, and it does a better job at degoogling than any other ROM mentioned in this thread, the only one that comes close is DivestOS, and no eOS is NOT like Qubes…
GOS wanted to reduce the attack surface as much as possible so they removed all the unecessary Bloat, it doesn’t even ship with wallpapers !!
This list is not exhaustive and covers a tiny bit of the differences between these custom ROMs but it’s a good place to start
i see, I think that’s a problem of who is recommending the servers to people, I always go with one of the servers that are on the matrix.org website ( these has strict moderators and are under active development ), I can certainly go with another list of abstract/shady unknown servers but that’s a recipe for disaster…
Btw, I’m not denying that there is terrible content on some of these servers/rooms, but I’m saying it’s a byproduct of the system architecture, Element/Matrix can implement more safety settings that’s for sure
that being said the worse footage I saw in my entire life was on Facebook, and it was completely allowed, which tells you something about the platform and how little to no control you have to change it’s direction.
The UI is designed in such a way that it doesn’t expose the user to outside servers ( by default you’re on Matrix.org ) even when you press the discover button you’ll see rooms from the same server.
the only way for an average user to get exposed to such rooms is by being invited to them by strangers or Bots ( so maybe there should be a way to disable community invites, especially Bot invites )
Or maybe your client didn’t put much thought into the user journey and let you discover everything, even abstract/shady servers
Don’t take this the wrong way, but do you lurk on Matrix everyday ? I’m not on the right ( wrong ) rooms because I only take what I need from any service, the Internet can be depressing, so my advice is to be careful
It’s kinda strange, the guy reached a conclusion that the service is legit hard to control and take down by any government, but was insisting on: BUT… BUT… BUT… trying to stress the negative points, which by the way, they’re way more apparent on other Big tech Platforms, specifically : Discord…
If you have a centralized server and that server straight out refuses to take measures against abuse ( I’m just gonna say abuse in general and that includes all things: Child abuse, Ra*e, addictive drugs…etc )
if you as a user notice these things and after you report them nothing happens… Then what ? Wait until a big news outlet notice, then they publish it on their website, and after a week or so, you’ll watch the CEO walk away from court like nothing happened…
On Matrix, as a user, I can spin up my own server, make my own rules, and make sure stuff like this ( abuse ) doesn’t happen, the point here is that you can’t blame Element Team or Matrix Team for what happens on this system, they just make the software and people deploy it
the only thing left to blame afterwards is human nature!
Which brings me to an important question, who is his source ? they must have great control over the network to realize that Matrix ( a huge decentralized network with many servers is a pit of abuse ) !!!
without a source ? without knowing how they knew what they claimed ? this video is just a conspiracy theory in my view… And having ties to the French government isn’t necessarily a bad thing… ( knowing that the French government spied on it’s citizens, yes )
I have been using Matrix for years, and never encountered a single instance of abuse… trolls yes… Hentai…yes … but no shady stuff… It’s mostly nerds talking about Computers, Linux and Anime
No, breaking an encryption is all about knowing how it works, many cryptographers make their algorithm proprietary in hopes that an attacker will have a hard time figuring how it works, however they turn out to be weak, other encryption algorithms are developed in the open so that many people look at it and see the flaws
The key word is : weak The idea is not making a backdoor directly, the idea is making it flawed, it’s like securing a bank with steel doors with the exception of one door, that door is made out of wood and only you know where it’s located.
Exactly… “had”
Check again, it’s broken now…
I haven’t seen a single Mastodon instance available as TOR service.
Kolektiva dot social is Mastodon server for activists, and they have a Onion version, and they never track you like Twitter does…
there is more into the anonymity game than just using TOR, other networks has their own approaches, and TOR is not perfect
Edit: but that’s another subject…
I mean they understand their encryption algorithm, they made it after all, and with the advancements of Quantum computing it could be possible to decrypt someone’s data… So what good does providing quantum computing for Imessages do… If they : understand how the algorithm works + they have enough computing power to decrypt it + it’s proprietary.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was all a theater, and it’s the best backdoor implementation to exist
About “Security theater”:
keep in mind that companies can lie on how their stuff works, also I don’t think the nature of the store matters, as much as the fact that you’re only allowed to get the open source apps from there which will also run on top of a proprietary OS, with proprietary firmware
Gaslighting their customers": I’d like to see hard proof on that
Consider that I have a low standard on what a hard proof should be,… I consider telling people that : “Privacy, that’s iPhone”, while literally developing nothing in the open, which is the best and ONLY way to guarantee transparency, instead they went with the “trust me bruh” method, plus they display ads… like…they have… a… dedicated… ad … platform…
You don’t respect my Privacy while you target me with ads
😄…Ok… I think you meant Lobotomite
I’ve seen it firsthand how some channels are not available on telegram downloaded from app store vs direct apk download
the right word is “visible”… discoverability on Telegram has always being broken, as in you search for a channel, good luck finding it!.. like you said it’s because of your phone number region… Etc… that has been fixed when they introduced similar channels feature, since then I never used that broken search functionality… But once you find and join a channel, if Telegram mods decided to censor some posts or remove the entire channel, it’ll be removed from all clients… unless there is some client out there who saves snapshots of all channels or posts ( somehow )
It gets worse when you watch his interview with Tucker Carlson … guy said if a government forces us to censor a group it’ll only censored from the app you get from big tech play stores… That’s horseshit… If you censor a group from your platform, it’ll be removed from all people’s feeds regardless of their clients or from where they got the app…
It stops working after a while ( days or weeks ), your receipents will stop receiving your messages, and you’ll not receive theirs, or you’ll receive them with a big delay, it happens more frequently with iOS users
most people have to go out of their way to start a secret chat, the user journey to activate it is too long, it’s safe to consider it hidden…
Yes, you can do that when you have to vote for the lesser evil… and compromise!.. how about NO
what about your principles ? what about setting an example for the future generations ? what are they going to think of their ancestors who lived under and had to work with evil systems because "that’s what they had to work with"
I’m not saying it’s going to be easy, but we need to recognize these systems of control, and boycott them and I’m very glad to see more and more people waking up to the surveillance agenda and leaving Big tech… the government is also a control system, people hate to admit that because it makes them think they’re weak, but that’s not true…