Well this quite a surprise. THE FINALS is one of the most popular new online FPS games that uses Easy Anti-Cheat from Epic Online Services, and as of a recent update — it works on Steam Deck and Desktop Linux.
Doesn’t seem to run correctly for me on my PC or Deck - after reaching the main menu it hangs and then I receive a generic “The application has hung and will now close” error with Proton Experimental. GE Proton results in an unauthorized modification error at launch.
But, I’m glad to see progress is being made regardless! Just not sure why it doesn’t work for me lol.
Idc if it’s an unpopular opinion, complaining about ai voices in games is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever in my life heard people get upset about.
You DONT want game characters to be able to intelligently respond to events in game and the things you do? What??
This conversation should be purely concentrated around how they compensate the actors for using their voice as an AI training tool.
I can enjoy this game for like 10 mins and I need a break. I follow the markers and then I’m in the middle of nowhere just to follow markers and do it again.
It also imo runs really well for how good it looks. I’m really impressed because it ran horribly in the closed beta, they did an impressive job optimizing it.
The embark account thing is kinda annoying when you already have steam but literally all you have to do is confirm your email. And the anti cheat is required because without it there would be even more hackers than the already is. Try to find a good game that is popular, multiplayer, with no anti cheat and no need for one because nobody cheats.
After playing csgo, I fully support invasive anti cheat.
It’s extremely frustrating going into matches and having a significant amount of them ruined by cheaters. I fucking hate people who cheat in multi-player games.
There isn’t really much co-op games left at this point. Most I can think of are just parts of other multiplayer games, which still have an anti cheat for their multiplayer version.
That’s like saying ads are also fine if you don’t care about them. The design of F2P model games is to create an environment to encourage spending, it’s insidious and more deceptive than you’d think.
Pretty disingenuous to attribute this to every f2p game.
Some developers don’t have money and wouldn’t be able to convince people to pay for their game right away.
People buying those skins are also exactly whats funding those games to keep going and developing, league of legends would have run out of money YEARS ago if it dropped on a standard $60 model.
You do know that you can perform a subscription or donation based service, right? Free to play games with microtransaction models are designed to manipulate the player into gambling, they are glorified online casinos.
Going into a cosmetic shop and purchasing the exact cosmetic that you saw and wanted is not gambling.
People complain even MORE about subscriptions. There is a very good reason that wow and ffxiv are some of the only games around that can make it work, or you can do it like fortnite crew but people will complain again if you don’t have enough content to create value on it.
Nothing wrong with a simple cosmetic store. They also allow other people to play without paying whatsoever.
And if it wasn’t clear, I’m not talking about loot boxes or gacha, at all. Those are gambling and predatory, and exactly why I said it’s disingenuous to lump every f2p game together for discussions like this.
Cosmetics are still used to nickel and dime players. Better to sell a complete package, or make it a subscription service, regardless of what players think they want, because it’s better to not be psychologically manipulated into making a purchase. Advertising is also bullshit, for the record.
Subscription services rely on the customer forgetting and paying for something they don’t necessarily actively want, especially in gaming, not sure how thats such a better alternative than a cosmetic you can simply not purchase.
There is no psychological manipulation for a straightforward cosmetic purchase lol
Apex has been crashing on me (bug with corrupted game files/ .pak files not updating properly) for the last year. It’s intermittent and happens more after some releases than others.
I was going back into windows to play but I decided f it. It’s not worth the trouble of switching I’d just go through my library of games that actually work on linux.
I’m really excited to hear that the finals is now a possibility. It looks really fun but I lazily refused to switch to windows to try it for the same reason above.
Intentional, the game is made by Battlefield alums. This also means that playing the objective influences your score more directly than kill count does.
Just today on another thread someone said they were banned. I would’ve saved the comment if I thought it was worthwhile. It was on a meme post about getting games to run on Linux.
Respawn/EA have never announced Linux support for Apex Legends, as far as I can tell, and it’s been working most of the time for the past two years, except for the few times when they’ve botched an update (and which they fixed it afterwards).
The Finals used to kick me before I’ve got to the main screen, claiming the lack of anticheat as a reason. now the launch shows EAC window loading and lets me fully through, so it seems quite obvious to me that they’ve enabled the support on their end.
Apex Legends was one of the big things that they were using as an example to show off the Steam Deck and is one of the main games listed on their “Steam Deck Verified” pages. I assume this means that Valve and Respawn/EA were talking to each other about it at least.
I would like to see Steam to require games to not ban Linux users for using Linux (or at least disclose that they are doing it) as a requirement for being listed on their store, but that’s probably not going to happen.
Doesn’t seem to run correctly for me on my PC or Deck - after reaching the main menu it hangs and then I receive a generic “The application has hung and will now close” error with Proton Experimental. GE Proton results in an unauthorized modification error at launch.
But, I’m glad to see progress is being made regardless! Just not sure why it doesn’t work for me lol.
They use AI generated voice acting
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-finals-dev-defends-ai-voices-says-its-not-trying-to-replace-humans/1100-6518802/
Idc if it’s an unpopular opinion, complaining about ai voices in games is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever in my life heard people get upset about.
You DONT want game characters to be able to intelligently respond to events in game and the things you do? What??
This conversation should be purely concentrated around how they compensate the actors for using their voice as an AI training tool.
I don’t even mind the voices. It’s really not bad at all.
I can enjoy this game for like 10 mins and I need a break. I follow the markers and then I’m in the middle of nowhere just to follow markers and do it again.
@sirsquid This game looks damn good graphically!
It also imo runs really well for how good it looks. I’m really impressed because it ran horribly in the closed beta, they did an impressive job optimizing it.
It’s also really chaotic and fun
@Evotech glad to hear it, what kind of shooter is it? Tactical or more run & gun?
Definitely run and gun, destructible environments is the key, battlefield devs who made it.
It’s 3v3v3 at its core. Although there’s different modes
Is there a 1v1 mode?
Not that I’m aware of. It’s designed around teams.
Aww ): thanks anyways!
New solo mode is coming
No thanks.
The embark account thing is kinda annoying when you already have steam but literally all you have to do is confirm your email. And the anti cheat is required because without it there would be even more hackers than the already is. Try to find a good game that is popular, multiplayer, with no anti cheat and no need for one because nobody cheats.
Not saying anti-cheat ain’t important for multiplayer games. Just not interested in creating security vulnerabilities on my system.
After playing csgo, I fully support invasive anti cheat.
It’s extremely frustrating going into matches and having a significant amount of them ruined by cheaters. I fucking hate people who cheat in multi-player games.
Then you aren’t interested in multiplayer gaming.
There’s such a thing as co-op, you know?
There isn’t really much co-op games left at this point. Most I can think of are just parts of other multiplayer games, which still have an anti cheat for their multiplayer version.
That’s not correct.
Name 3 popular co-op games that came out in the last year
Try to play a competitive online game without anti-cheat and see if it is still fun.
Don’t know, don’t care.
F2P isn’t a problem if you care rats ass about skins or if it isn’t P2W
That’s like saying ads are also fine if you don’t care about them. The design of F2P model games is to create an environment to encourage spending, it’s insidious and more deceptive than you’d think.
Pretty disingenuous to attribute this to every f2p game.
Some developers don’t have money and wouldn’t be able to convince people to pay for their game right away.
People buying those skins are also exactly whats funding those games to keep going and developing, league of legends would have run out of money YEARS ago if it dropped on a standard $60 model.
You do know that you can perform a subscription or donation based service, right? Free to play games with microtransaction models are designed to manipulate the player into gambling, they are glorified online casinos.
Going into a cosmetic shop and purchasing the exact cosmetic that you saw and wanted is not gambling.
People complain even MORE about subscriptions. There is a very good reason that wow and ffxiv are some of the only games around that can make it work, or you can do it like fortnite crew but people will complain again if you don’t have enough content to create value on it.
Nothing wrong with a simple cosmetic store. They also allow other people to play without paying whatsoever.
And if it wasn’t clear, I’m not talking about loot boxes or gacha, at all. Those are gambling and predatory, and exactly why I said it’s disingenuous to lump every f2p game together for discussions like this.
Cosmetics are still used to nickel and dime players. Better to sell a complete package, or make it a subscription service, regardless of what players think they want, because it’s better to not be psychologically manipulated into making a purchase. Advertising is also bullshit, for the record.
Subscription services rely on the customer forgetting and paying for something they don’t necessarily actively want, especially in gaming, not sure how thats such a better alternative than a cosmetic you can simply not purchase.
There is no psychological manipulation for a straightforward cosmetic purchase lol
Yeah it’s a shitty model, but i played countless hours spending not a dime in various games
I don’t care. That’s the problem. They try to shove them down my throat every 3 fucking minutes.
What the hell are you even talking about? The game is super unobtrusive about their in game store.
What it does show you, is what you unlock for free.
have you ever heard of enshittification my sweet summers child
Every free to play game I have ever played
Its not that bad.
Apex has been crashing on me (bug with corrupted game files/ .pak files not updating properly) for the last year. It’s intermittent and happens more after some releases than others.
I was going back into windows to play but I decided f it. It’s not worth the trouble of switching I’d just go through my library of games that actually work on linux.
I’m really excited to hear that the finals is now a possibility. It looks really fun but I lazily refused to switch to windows to try it for the same reason above.
Literally the only game I’m playing rn. It’s so fucking good
This game is so fun. It’s one of the only games I play that couldn’t be played on Linux. Very glad they’re fixing this.
It’s great. My only complaint is that the character models are not to my taste at all. But theyre fine targets so it’s a minute issue.
The way they run in that opening scene makes me laugh.
The steam community was quite active. Who knows, maybe the devs considered it worthwhile seeing the activity there.
CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
lots of people asked for it in their Discord group, too.
I get Bad Company 2 vibes from this. Might give it a shot.
Intentional, the game is made by Battlefield alums. This also means that playing the objective influences your score more directly than kill count does.
Interesting. I’ve been getting hounded to play this game by friends. I might check it out.
The destruction is epic but I’m really not a fan of the only 2 game modes. Just give me classic TDM or something…
I keep seeing TV ads where the key only show the actual game title for like 0.1seconds.
Had it installed for a while. Even sent the devs a friendly email that I’m interested but waiting on them to enable support to let me play.
It looks good. Now I can find out myself.
No official announcements means you could get banned for trying it. Don’t do it.
I’ve tried it and wasn’t banned. Before the update, EAC would quit right after launch with a message
Just today on another thread someone said they were banned. I would’ve saved the comment if I thought it was worthwhile. It was on a meme post about getting games to run on Linux.
Don’t play it because they might ban you then you won’t be able to play it?
That’s pretty normal tho.
I also do not care. That would just mean going back to not playing it. Boohoo.
If they can’t help banning people for playing on Linux, that’s honestly a bigger problem for the devs than me, imo.
It’s F2P, just don’t buy any cosmetics and make a new account if it gets banned.
Respawn/EA have never announced Linux support for Apex Legends, as far as I can tell, and it’s been working most of the time for the past two years, except for the few times when they’ve botched an update (and which they fixed it afterwards).
The Finals used to kick me before I’ve got to the main screen, claiming the lack of anticheat as a reason. now the launch shows EAC window loading and lets me fully through, so it seems quite obvious to me that they’ve enabled the support on their end.
Apex Legends was one of the big things that they were using as an example to show off the Steam Deck and is one of the main games listed on their “Steam Deck Verified” pages. I assume this means that Valve and Respawn/EA were talking to each other about it at least.
I would like to see Steam to require games to not ban Linux users for using Linux (or at least disclose that they are doing it) as a requirement for being listed on their store, but that’s probably not going to happen.