If you can provide evidence for what really happened, I’ll happily take a look.

And yes, my language was harsh, and I apologise for that. I’ve just seen people making up drama to discredit communities before, and it gets on my nerves somewhat.

Copying my comment from the other thread (they’ve made a few).

So I got curious about this, and had a look into it.

Firstly, the entire conversation was scrubbed from the chat, and it was done so before the lemmy.ml callout post was discovered/made. So claiming that they’re “okay with it” is a bit of a stretch.

The entire discussion seemed to have spawned from this article: https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2025/06/23/h3h3-ethan-klein-sues-three-reaction-streamers/ . I don’t know or care enough to say who is right or wrong, but here you go in case anyone wants to look into it.

Apparently, according to a quick search, Asmongold did make some choice comments about Palestine.

What I assumed happened is that people were talking about the lawsuit and someone offhandedly mentioned Asmongold. Then GlacialTurtle decided to go on a long rant about genocide and then was told to cool it. Because obviously anyone that doesn’t want to talk about genocide in a server about Linux software is in fact tactily supporting genocide, Turtle doubled down and ended up getting banned. Then they went to their next platform to complain about it, Lemmy, and now here we are two degrees removed from the discussion with no actual receipts.

Somewhat fittingly, earlier yesterday, they were talking about the tragic death/murder of Mikayla Raines.

Linux Mint tends to be a bit conservative in terms of kernel version (which is what usually determines driver and hardware support), which explains why you had trouble getting hardware to work. I think they’re getting better at it now though.

Under Linux, I find “gparted” to be a good application for looking at and managing partitions.

Wait, didn’t they change their name recently or was that the mineclone Minecraft clone game?

… Yeah, given how confusing it’s been, a name change is overdue. And will hopefully distract Microsoft’s lawyers for a bit.

How are you running the games? Wine/Proton creates a “pretend” Windows environment which you may as well have on a Linux native filesystem.

I think the time to do that has already passed; the Steam Deck and even Linux gaming in general has really taken off, so it would impact far more people than before. In addition, I think the EU has started breathing down their neck and will pounce on them if they do anything so blatantly monopolistic.

So this hypothetical “Direct X 15” would be limited to only Windows 11 users outside of europe, and the games wouldn’t be distributable through Steam. I can’t see that being a good pitch to developers, even if DirectX15 was really good.

They also tried this waay back in Windows 8 with the Windows Store, and it honestly was a flop.

How much log information is being printed to the console? If it’s logging something every frame then that could be using a ton of resources.

I have a Windows dual boot for the (nowadays rather rare) cases where a game won’t run in Linux.

Interestingly, I spent a while trying to get League of Legends working with their new rootkit requirements… But my Windows-using friends weren’t comfortable playing the game any more.

Really? To me they look like the ones on the 3DS. It made sense there considering the lid, but not here.

Scam aside, that thing does not look comfortable to hold and use. Especially those triggers.

If this is all about some secret keys, couldn’t they release the project without those keys, and ask users to get those keys through… Uh… Legal means. I think that’s how they got around it in bioses for earlier consoles.

Edit: I see. Fuck Nintendo.

As far as I know, the open source drivers are recommended for AMD - my driver installer in Mint doesn’t even list proprietary drivers.

Mint has a program that simplifies the process of installing Nvidia drivers. I think it’s just called “Driver Manager”.

Valve certainly has skeletons in their closet, but they are using their monopoly much better than their competitors.

They legitimately run a good service that’s more customer focused than their opposition, which are either not being competitive or trying to bruteforce their own monopoly.

Apex Legends was one of the big things that they were using as an example to show off the Steam Deck and is one of the main games listed on their “Steam Deck Verified” pages. I assume this means that Valve and Respawn/EA were talking to each other about it at least.

I would like to see Steam to require games to not ban Linux users for using Linux (or at least disclose that they are doing it) as a requirement for being listed on their store, but that’s probably not going to happen.

Posted something on Reddit, posting here as well:

As a Linux user and dual booter, it’s a shame to see this happen.

Kernel level anti-cheat always felt like those security measures at airports. Where they’ve granted themselves invasive and intrusive powers in order to “protect people”, but it’s just smoke and mirrors designed to avoid giving people the resources required to actually do their job properly.

I trust Riot, but I’m not sure I trust them when they’ve given themselves permission to constantly watch my webcam, microphone, monitor and all my files. Given that they’ve specifically gone out of their way to avoid OS safeguards to grant themselves that permission, I’m not sure how much I trust “Trust me bro” and contracts that can be changed arbitrarily and unilaterally.

Anyway, rant over. Since there are Rioters apparently responding to things, figured I’d ask: Is there a requirement for Secure Boot in LoL’s implementation? For context, Secure Boot is a system to prevent software not approved by Microsoft from running on computers. I know you can enroll your own certificates, but firstly that seems like a hassle, and secondly that seems to remove the main benefit Riot has for requiring it. Obviously, as a Linux user this would block me from running LoL entirely, even if I dual booted into my Windows 10 install (I got curious and tried it, and apparently my motherboard doesn’t even include Microsoft’s certificate for some reason. :D).

I have a more technical question as well; I’m not familiar with TPM enough to know this. If you don’t use your TPM module for bitlocker encryption on Windows, isn’t it trivial to just reset it to get a new identifier thingie? If they’re using it to ensure that there is one Riot Account per physical computer, I’m not sure how harder this is to work around than when games were using MAC addresses in the olden days.

I’d continue on and say “you’ve lost a paying customer whose spent probably hundreds of pounds on this game” and whine about how I’ve been softbanned from the game because Riot assumes that all Linux users are filthy cheaters, but that’s probably not worth it. This almost certainly was done by management looking at the books and thinking this was profitable, rather than a compassionate decision by those passionate about the game and wanting to see it succeed.

Instead, I extend my sympathies to the poor Riot developers and PR people reading this thread and having to deal with the fallout of their management’s decisions.

Steam Deck (curr. US$626.98 on Amazon)

Hmm… Doesn’t give me confidence in their journalistic integrity.