The embark account thing is kinda annoying when you already have steam but literally all you have to do is confirm your email. And the anti cheat is required because without it there would be even more hackers than the already is. Try to find a good game that is popular, multiplayer, with no anti cheat and no need for one because nobody cheats.
After playing csgo, I fully support invasive anti cheat.
It’s extremely frustrating going into matches and having a significant amount of them ruined by cheaters. I fucking hate people who cheat in multi-player games.
There isn’t really much co-op games left at this point. Most I can think of are just parts of other multiplayer games, which still have an anti cheat for their multiplayer version.
That’s like saying ads are also fine if you don’t care about them. The design of F2P model games is to create an environment to encourage spending, it’s insidious and more deceptive than you’d think.
Pretty disingenuous to attribute this to every f2p game.
Some developers don’t have money and wouldn’t be able to convince people to pay for their game right away.
People buying those skins are also exactly whats funding those games to keep going and developing, league of legends would have run out of money YEARS ago if it dropped on a standard $60 model.
You do know that you can perform a subscription or donation based service, right? Free to play games with microtransaction models are designed to manipulate the player into gambling, they are glorified online casinos.
Going into a cosmetic shop and purchasing the exact cosmetic that you saw and wanted is not gambling.
People complain even MORE about subscriptions. There is a very good reason that wow and ffxiv are some of the only games around that can make it work, or you can do it like fortnite crew but people will complain again if you don’t have enough content to create value on it.
Nothing wrong with a simple cosmetic store. They also allow other people to play without paying whatsoever.
And if it wasn’t clear, I’m not talking about loot boxes or gacha, at all. Those are gambling and predatory, and exactly why I said it’s disingenuous to lump every f2p game together for discussions like this.
Cosmetics are still used to nickel and dime players. Better to sell a complete package, or make it a subscription service, regardless of what players think they want, because it’s better to not be psychologically manipulated into making a purchase. Advertising is also bullshit, for the record.
Subscription services rely on the customer forgetting and paying for something they don’t necessarily actively want, especially in gaming, not sure how thats such a better alternative than a cosmetic you can simply not purchase.
There is no psychological manipulation for a straightforward cosmetic purchase lol
They don’t rely on it, and you can make a model that requires you to purchase months in advance, and refill as necessary, without charging again once that’s up.
There absolutely is psychological manipulation, that’s what advertisement is. Are you saying they make cosmetic shops some hidden feature you have to unlock? Lmao. Even just seeing it in-game is subtle manipulation into buying more.
F2P games are experiments in psychological manipulation more than they are games.
No thanks.
The embark account thing is kinda annoying when you already have steam but literally all you have to do is confirm your email. And the anti cheat is required because without it there would be even more hackers than the already is. Try to find a good game that is popular, multiplayer, with no anti cheat and no need for one because nobody cheats.
Not saying anti-cheat ain’t important for multiplayer games. Just not interested in creating security vulnerabilities on my system.
After playing csgo, I fully support invasive anti cheat.
It’s extremely frustrating going into matches and having a significant amount of them ruined by cheaters. I fucking hate people who cheat in multi-player games.
Then you aren’t interested in multiplayer gaming.
There’s such a thing as co-op, you know?
There isn’t really much co-op games left at this point. Most I can think of are just parts of other multiplayer games, which still have an anti cheat for their multiplayer version.
That’s not correct.
Name 3 popular co-op games that came out in the last year
Baldur’s Gate 3, Lethal Company, Sons of trhe Forest. Oh, and there’s Palworld recently too.
You didn’t say anything about when they were released.
Try to play a competitive online game without anti-cheat and see if it is still fun.
Don’t know, don’t care.
F2P isn’t a problem if you care rats ass about skins or if it isn’t P2W
That’s like saying ads are also fine if you don’t care about them. The design of F2P model games is to create an environment to encourage spending, it’s insidious and more deceptive than you’d think.
Pretty disingenuous to attribute this to every f2p game.
Some developers don’t have money and wouldn’t be able to convince people to pay for their game right away.
People buying those skins are also exactly whats funding those games to keep going and developing, league of legends would have run out of money YEARS ago if it dropped on a standard $60 model.
You do know that you can perform a subscription or donation based service, right? Free to play games with microtransaction models are designed to manipulate the player into gambling, they are glorified online casinos.
Going into a cosmetic shop and purchasing the exact cosmetic that you saw and wanted is not gambling.
People complain even MORE about subscriptions. There is a very good reason that wow and ffxiv are some of the only games around that can make it work, or you can do it like fortnite crew but people will complain again if you don’t have enough content to create value on it.
Nothing wrong with a simple cosmetic store. They also allow other people to play without paying whatsoever.
And if it wasn’t clear, I’m not talking about loot boxes or gacha, at all. Those are gambling and predatory, and exactly why I said it’s disingenuous to lump every f2p game together for discussions like this.
Cosmetics are still used to nickel and dime players. Better to sell a complete package, or make it a subscription service, regardless of what players think they want, because it’s better to not be psychologically manipulated into making a purchase. Advertising is also bullshit, for the record.
Subscription services rely on the customer forgetting and paying for something they don’t necessarily actively want, especially in gaming, not sure how thats such a better alternative than a cosmetic you can simply not purchase.
There is no psychological manipulation for a straightforward cosmetic purchase lol
They don’t rely on it, and you can make a model that requires you to purchase months in advance, and refill as necessary, without charging again once that’s up.
There absolutely is psychological manipulation, that’s what advertisement is. Are you saying they make cosmetic shops some hidden feature you have to unlock? Lmao. Even just seeing it in-game is subtle manipulation into buying more.
F2P games are experiments in psychological manipulation more than they are games.
Yeah it’s a shitty model, but i played countless hours spending not a dime in various games
I don’t care. That’s the problem. They try to shove them down my throat every 3 fucking minutes.
What the hell are you even talking about? The game is super unobtrusive about their in game store.
What it does show you, is what you unlock for free.
have you ever heard of enshittification my sweet summers child
Every free to play game I have ever played
Its not that bad.