Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…
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it did…they have changed their website a lot these last few days.
I love options but does anybody else wish devs would put their heads together and focus on improving ONE app rather than launch a millon similar forks?
More fox the merrier. We have Icecat, Iceweasel, Palemoon, Librewolf, Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser… I’m sure I’m missing many more for desktop.
So, how about the Cachy Browser from CachyOS? (aur)
Definitely very interesting! Thanks for sharing. Was thinking about trying CachyOS too.
This OS is good and I’ve used it for 6months but I want to switch because it packed all of these theming inside and you cannot really remove it
Yeah, the themeing is there. But you can easily uninstall it and other core CachyOS-packages, they’re just packages after all. (I’ve done it)
The other way would be to start with Arch and add CachyOS repositories, that way you can also profit from the v3/v4 packages.
That’s cool but the CachyOS repo is not the most interesting thing, the pre-optimized desktop is really nice
Good to know - thanks. I, too, prefer to customize mine in my own way.
Yeah, and it’s sad because I didn’t find a distro that is really welled tweaked without theming (speaking of CachyOS and Garuda mainly), they are great as their using all the best optimizations in terms of performance but they add this theming…
Can’t you just not select the themes during the install process of cschyOS?
You can unselected testing etc… But cannot with all of the stuff like the fish shell, and so on. So you need to manually remove all this, and this is not good at all
For some reason I recall being able to choose that during install. I’ll fuck around with the installer later to check. But I agree I use don’t use fish either and had to figure out how to swap over to zsh. It was pretty painless though.
Yeah, so far my favourite distro for this is Bazzite, still allowed a lot of customization and is well optimised for gaming.
It’s a good distro, but seems to be too gaming focused, new techs for gaming that are not really useful
For that, check out Bluefin or Aurora. They’re all under the same umbrella as Bazzite, but with a user/developer focus instead of a gaming focus.
How does this compate to Mullvad Browser?
Think mullvad is better
Actually quite stoked about this as it boasts those librewolf privacy features while having a UI similar to Arc. Can’t wait for it to exit Alpha
nobody uses iceweasel? For those who don’t know, it is the version of firefox cleaned up by non ‘libre’ code mainly from debian and then taken over by parabola linux. For me it is the best together with mullvad.
I was under the impression IceWeasel changed to IceCat.
And, honestly, from all I could remember, the default protections are so strong a good half of sites doesn’t even work properly lol
Typical GNU maximalism.
(But yeah - it really blocks all the bad stuff and doesn’t do anything you don’t ask it to do, not even call for updates by default)
icecat is based on the LTS version, iceweasel the rolling-release. I have been using iceweasel for almost a year and all the sites I have used work
I see - thanks for clarification!
Got confused because beforehand there was GNU IceWeasel (now GNU IceCat), which is now separate from IceWeasel. Quite a shitshow.
I was daily driving it but started crashing after an update. I’ll be getting back to it tho, I’m sure there has been like 4 updates in the last 24 hours…
Floorp is literally running with tons of optimizations and is shifting to the standard FF release instead of long term support build in their next major release. The optimizations though are like front and center, and it has TONS of privacy toggles and features.
That comparison is… Self serving let’s say.
I love Mulls new browser fork of Firefox but on Gos it weakens the security due to a sandbox implementation not being as strong vs Chromium. I hate big corpo who don’t. Brave seems to be the best mobile for now. Sucks but soon as sandboxing issue is fixed. Firefox FTW!
nixpkgs has been working on adding it for a month now but it uses “surfer” for compilation. It’ll be interesting to see how they end up building it in the Nix style. Looks like it’ll have to involve pnpm.
Has anyone tried loading arkenfox user.js on there? That’s the bare minimum for me to use a Firefox-based browser. I’m not using that without hardening.
I’ve been using it for about a week, both at work and at home, and I must say that it is great. It is nearly everything that I wanted from a browser. Especially since it is based on Firefox.
I’ve been so happy with it, that I even donated to the project.
Happy to hear!
I’ll take anything to get off of Firefox. I’ll give this browser a week long trial run.
You fanboys can go to hell. Defend this if you can: https://imgur.com/a/1Tr4ttb
Try Floorp.
Also, maybe don’t compare clean chrome install to FF with a half dozen extensions installed. Extensions like Greasemonkey run literally any script you tell them to. An errant line of code and there goes your memory.
Try again, apples to apples dude.
I think it’s a fair comparison. You’re just moving the field goals, is all.
“Moving the goal posts” I fail to see how I’m changing the conditions. I’m explaining a clear and obvious issue in that image which is why it’s not a good comparison.
Okay, extensions require container processes, for each one. Each new extension add to the RAM usage. For both Firefox and Chrome.
So already the comparison is flawed because Firefox now requires more base memory to load those extensions out the gate.
But now, Firefox is clearly showing Tampermonkey in the toolbar, a userscript extension. Let’s just say I run a script that fetches competing price info from temu.com when you browse a site like amazon. Not uncommon.
Let’s say I set that to loop, so it’ll work on infinite scroll pages too.
Okay, now if you leave your browser alone for an hour and it’s refreshing these scripts, guess what happens to the memory?
Every test of current builds of FF vs Chrome has found extremely negligible performance differences when both are stock installs.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/mozilla-firefox-chrome-review-comparison-2020/
This is from 4 years ago,. Again, stock browser without a busted extension causing a memory leak, the browser runs solid.
https://cloudzy.com/blog/which-browsers-use-the-least-memory/#Firefox_vs_Chrome_RAM_Usage_Comparison
Run a real world test and you’ll see what I mean. Their RAM consumption is pretty much on par, and varies between update cycles but not wildly.
https://youtu.be/YQcslo9OqtE?si=FvI-Hk7vk46H5U67
From 3 months ago, with graphs. Firefox and Chrome have had near identical performance for years.
Awfully rude just because you don’t like something that you have full control of deciding to use or not.
Awfully rude to be this retarded.
@Frozyre please keep it a bit friendly. I understand you are mad, but there’s no point in treating other people like this.
Tell the assholes to keep it friendly themselves. I’m talking the fanboys. They who can’t handle differing opinions have no place in open discussion on any platform. Period.
You actually started calling them to go to hell.
Open discussions are of course fine, but your tone isn’t. Since we aren’t talking about handling different opinions now, you are just insulting people. So feel free to express any feedback you might have, but there is no need for insulting and swearing.
Did you not see the score for my original comment? 43 unanswered downvotes. How can you sit there and tell me that there’s going to be an open and civil discussion that’ll come from with that? I’ve already had a few people throw the stone with their illogical commentary about what I’ve pictured with their frail attempts to defend their favorite browser.
And I got all of that, just from stating the original comment I said prior to the edit. But the ‘go to hell’ part was not the original comment.
So before more people jump down my neck about being civil, you ought to know what other people float about that go about antagonizing users or expecting negativity to come their way before they cry out to admins and mods, for something they gaslighted to!
Troll elsewhere.
can you spot any differences in your browser comparison?
I did but all you fucking morons are having your knee jerk reactions. It’s what I expected from dumb fucking fanboys with no lives who swear their allegiance to Firefox. Fuck you. lol
@Frozyre Please, behave yourself. This unnecessary swearing is pointless.
A bit more politeness goes a very long way.
Try being more civil, this will earn you way more support, especially since you want to change people’s minds.
Nope. There is no civility with fanboys.
Tried it a bit yesterday on Windows. Opened a Github link in it and Windows Defender killed the app saying it was a threat. Definitely a false positive but seemed odd to see the entire app just die instantly, lol.