https://lemmy.ml/comment/22408630

Again not to defend anyone but you fell in the trap.

1 - These roms never said anything like we’re superior and most secure (something that grapene is proudly advertising)

2 - By saying these words, only unjustified hate is bring to some FOSS projects and slow down development and adoption to the whole public
And people are just gonna hate Graphene cause of this and other hating alternatives roms cause graphene said something…

Pretty good response but somehow they will suffer from Graphene accusations

They (graphene) are really playing childish this time

EDIT : misinterpretations

https://lemmy.ml/comment/22408630

If you’re wondering, I checked a bit online and here’s what I understood :

The 19th November a newspaper in France called “Le Parisien” published an article about GrapheneOS and that it was a dream OS for drug dealer (and whole networks).
That it could erase itself if a intrusion was detected by showing for example a fake Snapchat page (which is btw totally false and doesn’t take part in the official releases), these claims where besides made by french cops.

For that, the newspaper contacted Graphene, and they (graphene) answered that the tool they’re providing is simply working and that like a knife it could be used for malicious activities, but as with a knife most people would use it responsibly (to protect their privacy)

At this point I think that the Graphene reaction was pretty great and acted to defend citizens privacy.

But what follows next didn’t make the same impression, by quitting the France they are not really focusing on the good topics :

1 - France cops are no exceptions to others, surely all of them around the world would like to break encryption and privacy (grapheneOS for example)

2 - That’s not the government that propagates wrong statement about graphene, but the journalists from “Le Parisien” (if they can be called “journalists”)
(The authorities maybe lied (not the first time btw) to scare the public, the newspaper shouldn’t published it with fakes in it…)

And accusing any French based initiative is not an argument (at first they didn’t have anything to do between french authorities and graphene)
Even if FOSS projects have a country on the paper, it’s not really much more of a negative aspect than to respect the laws in place…
So why Graphene doesn’t blame Framasoft (guys that are maintaining peertube) for example?

And lastly in Europe many initiatives gets money from governments (whatever they’re doing)

Note : I’m not saying that /e/os and Iode aren’t guilty of anything sketchy but that in this case Graphene are just insulting FOSS privacy projects…

To conclude, I would say that Graphene done right by replying and arguing to a bullshit article.
BUT they shouldn’t generalize to all french projects and promote hate against frenchies and/or french projects (Btw they moved their servers from France to Germany and Canada, these countries are no more private than France and any others countries)

Original article : https://archive.is/20251124210306/https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/google-pixel-et-grapheneos-la-botte-secrete-des-narcotrafiquants-pour-proteger-leurs-donnees-de-la-police-19-11-2025-NTGPQE4JCNGEHLF7XGIQ3CCA2I.php

Not to protect /e/os and Iode (neither to promote the french laws), but I would like to have real source of what’s happening, what /e/os and idoe didn’t do right, when they conveyed fakes about graphene…

Not to say but the graphene community (mainly his leader) is always having drama with some people. So real proofs and explanations would be greatly appreciated. Wouldn’t like to say black or white to this subject and would like to nuance the post

FSF and Linux phone maybe.

But you’re right for now there’s no real alternative but even if it shouldn’t mean that android is the way to go and that we should put our effort in

Backed by google, even if open source today google can make the choices, for example hiding some part of the dev tree until release or restricting sideloading… I think that try to fight against google for an OS they try to rotten is not really valuable

Dont you think that an android based device is doomed to failure?

People can’t be blame for not paying attention to that. All are not really techie, just following current trend, and for sure big tech doesn’t make the task easier.

They are to blame later when risks are explained and people from their surroundings are willing to give help.

That was quick

You should in the first place avoid them, but if it’s necessary :

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

Could work

For me a smartphone is a computer that you can carry in your pocket. No more.

Sure, brands are today adding loads of stuff, but a PC could do the same if some people were interested in.

As some said FMD (Find My Device) available on Fdroid is an option, but except real GPS trackers they will not work everywhere. The same goes with any airtag like system

A great step that will solve most of the junk problems that I see, is to move to a custom rom.

To remain free (for good reasons or not btw).

But at the end the goal is to protect the freedom for everyone and give everyone a chance to live without interruptions by any entity that wants to regulate that

Use /e/OS officially supported on fair phone 5

To dive deeper in the subject check this:

https://www.stopspying.org/peoples-handbook

You would need two flipper zero, one outside emitting on several frequencies and one inside trying to catch any frequencies from the outside one

I know but don’t think you could find them there. The only way of getting good ones is surely to buy some that seems reputable (aka not amazon shit) and test them in labs (maybe someone already done that and that Faraday bags recommandations exist online)

Thanks for the explanation

I don’t think that if real Faraday bags meant for military work they are avaible in surplus store for civilians

When talking about real and useful bags I’m talking about those that are blocking almost all the frequencies. Putting a device in a Faraday bag means that it’s not safe at first so it should be able to block all frequencies not only “call frequencies”

From what I heard you won’t find a real Faraday bag that works well and blocks almost all signals, those found on Amazon are really not that effective and only “military grade” bags could be useful in these kind of threats

Please at least make it available to use with SearXNG

Look the OP has this account created 2 hours ago, and posted this right after, sure it is

Anubis?

If you have the possibility to self host -> PiHole (or adguard)

If not -> TrackerControl (a.k.a. TC)

For non-techy people I think the best way of getting into it is surely the mass surveillance, “you use social medias, but did you know that all of it is recorded and reported on these?” I would try to use some scary things that would make people first really interested to it from the start, instead of proposing alternatives the second you talk to them. Examples are countless try to inform yourself on the Edward Snowden leak to explain it to them, talk about the numerous spying techniques used by big tech. Hope was at least a bit useful :)

Give me questions that you ask yourself I will be very happy to answer them ;)

It’s not about going “full privacy-hardened” than to not use at all any phones with stock Apple and Google software. Seriously you can do any effort you want, the first one would be to install a custom android privacy based ROM. You can’t go around it.

You’re absolutely right but these are mainly a droplet in the glass of global surveillance started by global facial cameras But at the end they are surely going to even more increase this shit

Facial recognition street cameras are far more dangerous than these. Sure they are pretty creepy but without rayban you could already insert tiny cameras into glasses to spy on people

EDIT : the only big concern is that they get more popular and that they increased even faster the global surveillance

How sorry didn’t know, so that make him really one of the biggest expert in FOSS 100%

That’s a good find that famous people are getting into FOSS (should be free as in freedom too). But it’s really not a good thing that they spread a non expert speaking to the crowd.

Tier lists are meant to be mainly subjective and pretty relative to the person that made it. In that way Pewdipie could quote experts but in no case should make a tier list based on what he found the last weeks (I didn’t fully watched the video so maybe I’m wrong and he made a big disclaimer)

If you’re a really “mainstream” user not really caring about privacy and such use Floorp or Zen.

If you’re caring about privacy at least a bit and want to get a pleasing experience, use Waterfox.

If you’re a bit more serious about privacy use Librewolf (mainly for privacy itself) or Mullgad Browser (for anonymity and fingerprinting). (These browsers are totally usable if you care about privacy and can be 100% used as daily drivers)

Lastly, you shouldn’t use Tor Browser in replacement of the traditional Firefox as it’s firstly meant to use it with the Tor network and to only browse some sites that are not tracking every move. (The same goes a bit with Mullvad (excepting the fact that Mullvad is not meant to browser the Tor network), it’s an anonymity browser in the sense that you shouldn’t use it to connect to the GAFAM fucking services that will suck 100% your datas, in this case of high privacy without really needing pure anti-fingerprinting and anonymity you should use Librewolf)

That’s it hope you will succeed in your journey! :)

Last advice : You can also harden the default Firefox with some user.js (like the arkenfox or betterfox one) but as today it’s really no more useful in my opinion as forks are doing the same things without the configuration hassle of setting up your new browser. Have a nice day

Because it makes a healthier base to work with or to simply use it without caring

Increasing privacy (and sometimes security)

So what do you about it?

thx

For sure datas are everywere and will maybe try to remove it, but (as said to another person) what do you think about this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/18649355 Thank you