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Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…

Frozyre
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I’ll take anything to get off of Firefox. I’ll give this browser a week long trial run.

You fanboys can go to hell. Defend this if you can: https://imgur.com/a/1Tr4ttb

Try Floorp.

Also, maybe don’t compare clean chrome install to FF with a half dozen extensions installed. Extensions like Greasemonkey run literally any script you tell them to. An errant line of code and there goes your memory.

Try again, apples to apples dude.

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I think it’s a fair comparison. You’re just moving the field goals, is all.

“Moving the goal posts” I fail to see how I’m changing the conditions. I’m explaining a clear and obvious issue in that image which is why it’s not a good comparison.

Okay, extensions require container processes, for each one. Each new extension add to the RAM usage. For both Firefox and Chrome.

So already the comparison is flawed because Firefox now requires more base memory to load those extensions out the gate.

But now, Firefox is clearly showing Tampermonkey in the toolbar, a userscript extension. Let’s just say I run a script that fetches competing price info from temu.com when you browse a site like amazon. Not uncommon.

Let’s say I set that to loop, so it’ll work on infinite scroll pages too.

Okay, now if you leave your browser alone for an hour and it’s refreshing these scripts, guess what happens to the memory?

Every test of current builds of FF vs Chrome has found extremely negligible performance differences when both are stock installs.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/mozilla-firefox-chrome-review-comparison-2020/

This is from 4 years ago,. Again, stock browser without a busted extension causing a memory leak, the browser runs solid.

https://cloudzy.com/blog/which-browsers-use-the-least-memory/#Firefox_vs_Chrome_RAM_Usage_Comparison

Run a real world test and you’ll see what I mean. Their RAM consumption is pretty much on par, and varies between update cycles but not wildly.

https://youtu.be/YQcslo9OqtE?si=FvI-Hk7vk46H5U67

From 3 months ago, with graphs. Firefox and Chrome have had near identical performance for years.

Awfully rude just because you don’t like something that you have full control of deciding to use or not.

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Awfully rude to be this retarded.

melroy
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@Frozyre please keep it a bit friendly. I understand you are mad, but there’s no point in treating other people like this.

Frozyre
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Tell the assholes to keep it friendly themselves. I’m talking the fanboys. They who can’t handle differing opinions have no place in open discussion on any platform. Period.

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You actually started calling them to go to hell.

Open discussions are of course fine, but your tone isn’t. Since we aren’t talking about handling different opinions now, you are just insulting people. So feel free to express any feedback you might have, but there is no need for insulting and swearing.

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Did you not see the score for my original comment? 43 unanswered downvotes. How can you sit there and tell me that there’s going to be an open and civil discussion that’ll come from with that? I’ve already had a few people throw the stone with their illogical commentary about what I’ve pictured with their frail attempts to defend their favorite browser.

And I got all of that, just from stating the original comment I said prior to the edit. But the ‘go to hell’ part was not the original comment.

So before more people jump down my neck about being civil, you ought to know what other people float about that go about antagonizing users or expecting negativity to come their way before they cry out to admins and mods, for something they gaslighted to!

Frozyre
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Troll elsewhere.

can you spot any differences in your browser comparison?

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I did but all you fucking morons are having your knee jerk reactions. It’s what I expected from dumb fucking fanboys with no lives who swear their allegiance to Firefox. Fuck you. lol

melroy
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@Frozyre Please, behave yourself. This unnecessary swearing is pointless.

A bit more politeness goes a very long way.

Try being more civil, this will earn you way more support, especially since you want to change people’s minds.

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Nope. There is no civility with fanboys.

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