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At this point Google just want mozilla to be over them

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Companies and communities should just pull support for Chrome. It would mean a loss in market share but at the end of the day it would get some attention if everyone did it.

Is Firefox affected?

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times like these i wish we still had trident/edgehtml edge. it might not have been the best but at least it would be another engine other than gekko (let’s face it webkit is a non factor)

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I would suggest reading this before switching to Firefox/Waterfox/Librewolf. DNS blocking and userscripts will get you a long way on browsers that lack extensions (qutebrowser, falkon, luakit).

Switch to Firefox.

So how big an exodus to Firefox are we looking at here?

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Just quit Chrome…

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YⓄ乙
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Just want to quote reddit users

“THIS”

take my upvote!!!

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Include me in the screenshot

you, sir, have won the internet 😂

It’s all we can use at work besides Edge which is just a reskinned Chrome.

On my personal devices it’s 100% Firefox as they have great features like sharing pages between devices and extensions on the mobile browser.

Their best feature IMO has always been “not Microsoft” but now I’ll add “not Google” to that.

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You can’t use another Chromium based browser? Brave and Vivaldi will maintain support for Manifest v.2

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They might maintain it for a while, but their whole business model is built on the idea that they don’t have to develop a browser themselves. The longer they maintain v2, the more they have to patch the main chromium release. Eventually it will be enough development time that they’ll give it up. It’s a company and they’ll only do something as long as it’s profitable.

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I disagree, their entire business model is built on the idea that they are different from Chrome. Native Adblocker is a feature they advertise. People use their browsers because of this difference and will stop if this difference no longer exists.

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Native adblocking is completely different from manifest v2. I agree that they will continue with their adblocking, however my point still stands.

No everything is managed by IT due to IP concerns. We don’t even have privileges to install programs on the computers.

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Do you have WSL installed? If so, you can install Firefox in it and launch with a GUI, but there’s a massive performance penalty

I don’t think so. I’m assuming this would be more common in a programming type industry. We’re more of a R&D type manufacturing facility.

What about un-Googled Chromium?

It’s still 100% dependent on Google doing development work.

Most IT places don’t let end users install software.

OK, so we just need to make a Firefox that runs inside Chrome :)

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Petition the IT boffins about the loss of security when uBlock gets removed from chrome.

This is a large corporation and they laid off all the IT staff a few years ago in favor of outsourcing it to some far-off company.

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Just some minor changes

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Just use Librewolf on desktop, Mull on your phone and be done with it

also I’d recommend Adnauseam instead of ublock. It’s based on ublock but clicks on ads inseatd of blocking them.
Basically a form of protest against surveillance capitalism and obfuscation against it’s methods.

Does Adnauseam it actually work? Just installed it and tried to browse the most ad-infested DDL and porn sites possible : saw all the ads.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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Just like with ublock you have to configure it a bit, especially the blocklists

here is my setup:

(you can also import additional lists, these are rly cool https://github.com/bogachenko/fuckfuckadblock )

Never had to configure anything with ublock…

How does clicking on ads protest against them? Doesn’t that just give even more money to the ad networks (and Google)?

I think it overinflates the click rate, which means despite having more clicks on an ad, that doesnt mean that more people bought some product. This devalues click rate which might make the ad service less valuble to advertisers, so they dont spend as much on Google’s ad service.

And in general I think makes any training data for a model more muddy, since adnauseum isnt behaving like a human. So it could make it more difficult to train models that do targeted advertising.

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  1. Company buys 1000 clicks
  2. Adnauseam user click on 100 of them
  3. Company only bought 900 real clicks
  4. If 1% of the people who click, buy, then they only get 9 buyers instead of 10
  5. Company observes that 0.9% of people who click, actually buy
  6. A click isn’t as valuably as before.
  7. To generate 10 clicks, the company has to buy 1100 clicks in order to get the 10 paying customers in order to finance the ads
  8. More ads lead ro more people using adblocker, the more adblock users, the more adnauseam users. The more adnauseam users, the less valuable the ads.
  9. adnauseam usera click more often and faster on ads. If there is a critical mass of adnauseam users, the ads become even more worthless as real people do not get the chance of clicking on it, skewing the curve even further.
  10. As ads become useless because people don’t buy after a click, companies stop paying for ads in that space.
  11. Only companies that can differentiate between real users and adnauseam bots like within proprietary apps like tiktok and instagram can generate money.
  12. Is it really that useful?

Was wondering…

If I would invest $10 a month … How many computing power I could get … For an Adnauseam-As-A-Service server … And how many ad-budget that would vaporize?

Would it make $100, $1000 or more ad budget worthless?

Just curious what the numbers would be?

  1. achtually 1111 (as the new 100 will be targeted as well and so on)

🙂

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From their website:

As online advertising becomes ever more ubiquitous and unsanctioned, AdNauseam works to complete the cycle by automating ad clicks universally and blindly on behalf of its users. Built atop uBlock Origin, AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad, registering a visit on ad networks’ databases. As the collected data gathered shows an omnivorous click-stream, user tracking, targeting and surveillance become futile.

AdNauseam is a free browser extension designed to obfuscate browsing data and protect users from tracking by advertising networks. At the same time, AdNauseam serves as a means of amplifying users’ discontent with advertising networks that disregard privacy and facilitate bulk surveillance agendas.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


"Users will be directed to the Chrome Web Store, where they will be recommended Manifest V3 alternatives for their disabled extension.

The most salient of these is the blocking version of the webRequest API, which is used to intercept and alter network traffic prior to display.

Under Manifest V2, it’s what extension developers use to stop adverts, trackers, and other content appearing on pages, and prevent certain scripts from running.

The new MV3 architecture reflects Google’s avowed desire to make browser extensions more performant, private, and secure.

Li acknowledged the issue by noting the ways in which Google has been responsive, by adding support for user scripts, for offscreen documents that have access to the DOM API, and by increasing the number of rulesets in the declarativeNetRequest API (the replacement for webRequest) to 330,000 static rules and 30,000 dynamics ones.

And by the beginning of 2025, when the API changes have been available for some time in the Chrome Stable channel, Manifest V2 extensions will stop working.


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librewolf is cool but I think it’s too privacy optimised for the average user, it often doesn’t keep you signed into sites (even with cookies enabled) and the ocsp things can be annoying sometimes

I tried it and because I 2FA everything, this is why I stopped. It also kept resetting my settings every time I tried to fix it. It lasted less than a week.

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