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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Why there are so much VPNs here
How can you think it is a good practice.
Just learned my VPN has one of these tiles. Thanks.
Is that Lineage os 21?
Just the stock Pixel 7 ROM, sadly. I’m testing Graphene on my Pixel 6 and probably installing it on the 7 soon. There’s no actual privacy in this shitpost of a screenshot.
You should use spottube it doesn’t require an account. Right now even if you switch VPN Spotify will know it is still you since you logged in.
I am sure OP knows what logging in means…
Maybe they aren’t just that paranoid.
That must be exhausting.
Yeah it is… Good for OP he has a life. Sadly I don’t.
🎵Paranoid🎵
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Where’s Orbot?
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Holy hell!
Almost an oxymoron at this point but it’s free with a Pixel phone so I had to at least try it and see how bad it is. Privacy issues aside… it’s down all the damn time.
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I have a pixel 7 pro and I didn’t know it came with Google VPN either.
Same for me. First thing i did after buying a pixel was install GrapheneOS. However i felt like it was to locked down in the name of security so i switched to rooted lineageOS
Could you explain what you didn’t like about Graphene in detail?
Do you run Google services on Lineage? The last time I read about it, it was a massive pain with LSPosed and a bunch of modules.
I don’t run google services but afaik there is just an extra zip called “gapps.zip” that you flash after lineage itself
My problem was a lack of freedom: i couldn’t change some settings that i wanted and also i couldn’t give gadget bridge the necessary permissions to function properly. I need gadget bridge for my pine time smart watch
I use gadgetbridge on grapheneos with my pinetime. You need to enable restricted settings for gadgetbridge which is annoying but then it works.
Are you running the version of Lineage with GMS installed, perchance? Lineage doesn’t bundle GMS by default which makes it somewhat painful to get things working (especially since SafetyNet is deprecated, that was the last technology I had read about a while back).
Thanks for the input on Graphene
Currently im not using any google services except vanced microg i currently plan on using the proper microg to get google play working. Afaik there is a “LineageOS for MicroG” but not sure wether that’s official or even up to date.
Also “you can’t just say perchance!”
Yeah remove that Pixel bullshit and install GrapheneOS please.
Use MullvadVPN or anything else with an actual FOSS app.
Tailscale’s android client should be foss
Wireguard is foss
Outline is fossdamn, it’s nodr vpnSo, some of the apps from the screenshot are legit
Protonvpn is foss
Serverside isnt (iirc)
Only bad part about graphene is that you can’t use google pay
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Oh pay yeah this requires Google Play Integrity API verification I think.
So it will never work on non Google certified Operating Systems
I use grapheneos and from what I can tell they are wrong. It has NFC support but google pay requires additional permissions and has not been implemented yet. I think other NFC payment apps work but I don’t know much about that.
Good one XD
Clearly I’m in even better shape with eight lmao
But… you’re not connected to all of them. At least it seems.
Well you can only have one vpn on at a time. on normal android anyways. Im pretty sure you could change that but i got no clue about networking
Perhaps you could somehow run openvpn in Termux as SOCKS proxy on localhost. Then connect another instance to that, again, again, again,…
Then finally try using OpenVPN Android app and connect to the last proxy. Don’t forget split-tunelling for termux.
Sometimes, sticking to just one or two apps might be better. I was thinking of posting this 2019 article about Private Internet Access, but decided against it because it was a little outdated and somewhat well-known… But a comment can’t hurt, right?
https://www.hackread.com/private-internet-access-pia-vpn-sold-israel-privacy-concerns/
TIL. I’ve been using PIA for years, looks like I’m going to cancel now.
I agree. PIA is the only one I actually paid for and the one I’ve used the least. They’re only still on the list because I bought a 5 year block of time over 4 years ago when they had some big black Friday deal, so their app will soon be uninstalled. The rest are free or trials that I’ve been evaluating for performance. Thanks for the article, though.
I was in the same boat as you, I bought it before they sold out… But obviously you can’t return it at that point
A friend and former colleague in the IT industry recommended them to me so I gave some extra weight to his opinion. Then he lost like ten grand USD in Bitcoin because he left a (default) port forwarded to a VNC server in his house, open to the public and only protected by a known compromised password… and after that I stopped listening to anything he had to say about security.
I’m suspicious of anyone overconfident like that. The pen-testers I know love to make examples of them.
Ouch, that hurts just reading it.