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I prefer using telegram but in terms of privacy? Signal no discussions.
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1.- jami 2.- xmpp + omemo 3.- matrix 4.- signal
It’s hard no one cares. Where I live everyone uses whatsapp, and unfortunately what comes closer, and still without enough users base is signal on my list, and it’s the last. Jami is distributed, which makes it best in class, and there are good efforts trying to make it not to steal the whole battery, as opposed to briar. I which more people were interested on not using centralized stuff, not even what has been called lately decentralized, which means centralized but with several central points (only if everyone self hosts it would be decentralized, which is not the case). Currently I use Jami and signal, though I’ve tried all those, plus briar, plus tox, even telegram…
I’ve been using conversations with a friend for almost a year now, the only thing I find it lacking in is the reply feature, but other than that it works great!
I think you are taking about reactions. Dino on the desktop already has them and they will come to conversations as well, if I am not mistaken.
Signal hands down
If the team behind Session could finally get their shit together I wouldn’t use anything else.
I can generally convince people to use Telegram, but not signal. Telegram is better than SMS, GroupMe, WhatsApp, Discord, Facebook Messenger, SnapChat, etc so its what I use.
If anything, I’ve got hopes that Element/Matrix will get enough polish to become viable.
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I got banned from Telegram so…
that’s why I trust it
Signal is privacy focused Telegram is a privacy nightmare
Neither.
You sound like a matrix user
I am. You are too.
I would never trust telegram. The company behind it is mostly Russian scammers. I would use the opensource alternative to signal called Molly
Telegram
Signal if I had to choose but there are plenty of other options
Uhh like what?
Matrix
Session, Simplex chat and a bunch of other less functional ones
One of those had an entire Ph.D thesis written on the topic of compromising the encryption used. The other did not. I use the latter.
Which one is which? I’m out of the loop :(
Telegram’s the one that was broken as someone’s Ph.D thesis. Signal wasn’t.
Ahh, I guessed this was the case. I just couldn’t find anything about it. Thank you :)
Threema
Like telegram, threema insists on making up their own 🤡-crypto constructions which (unsurprisingly) are not very good: https://breakingthe3ma.app/ (see also The Register’s summary, and/or here for some earlier research).
Their response to those findings was to reinvent and replace everything (again). It seems like a pretty safe bet that their new amateur cryptographic constructions will get broken too, just as soon as the next bored researcher gets around to looking closely at it.
Right the formally proven threema crypto is going to get broken tomorrow /s https://threema.ch/en/blog/posts/security-proof-ibex
i wish we had a remindme bot so i could remember to come back to this comment in a year or so 🙄
me and my zero friends who use it
well… no need to have a messanger if you haven’t any friends.
Nah bro they just all cheap asf
Buy it for them
For people I don’t know or just started talking, I give them my telegram username that’s not linked to my personal phone number. For friends and family, I use signal.
Lots of opensource projects have telegram channels for updates. Not to mention news and local updates as well.
People need to incorporate a social aspect of the real world. Everyone isn’t as privacy conscious as you are and you can have multiple apps for different scenarios.
If you don’t ever want to meet anyone new, signal is perfect.
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