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The fact that Nvidia has been doing this for ages without opt-out (afaik) makes Intel look more humane in comparison.
There might be some bias involved based on the third paragraph:
Uh by stating how it is during installation of beta drivers from the competition is bias?
How is it biased to point out whether you can disable telemetry and how simple it is to do so?
To me, the article title is biased clickbait because it implies Intel is worse than the other GPU options. But Nvidia has been doing the same shit for years.
But I’m not the person you replied to.
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Claiming that Intel is not as shitty as Nvidia is pretty bold.
These are BETA DRIVERS. The point of beta releases is data collection.
You can also simply opt out if you want.
Mountain out of a mole hill.
Don’t install beta products if you don’t want to partake in said beta.
Read what you’re agreeing to and opt out of the data collection if you don’t want to have your data collected.
I’m opting out of your logic and sensical statements you bastard. Rabbo rabbo rabbo rabbo
Saw a lot of posts on this topic, but this is the first time I am learning the drivers in question are Beta drivers.
Yeah because it’s harder to bitch and moan about data collection when you’re opting in to a program that is literally for data collection.
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The point of betas/alphas is for testing. They aren’t really to help you out. If they don’t get testing data, there’s no sense in them letting users use it, then complaining about it breaking something and not getting the data to fix it with.
huh? Of course you can access about:config on stable releases and install addons from outside their website?
And you installed beta drivers to see if they run better than the latest version. Would have you reported your findings back or just keep it to you?
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I can promise you, the feedback is being read. They won’t respond, but it’s being seen. They also may not choose to change it in the way you want, because of how much effort it’d take or it going against their goals, but it’s being viewed by someone.
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could have said that you were talking about firefox for android from the get go :)
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But my privacy! I want all the latest and most unstable shit without giving anything back!
Laughs in Mesa
Can you imagine some marketing firm contacting intel to pay for the user data scraped by their customers GPUs?
Like how is that real.
Windows drivers only.
If you are on a spyware platform, what can you expect otherwise?
Damn. I was thinking: what the actual fuck, I escaped Windows and now this?
Lol saved me a click thanks
Can we just not live in a fucking dystopian world ?
“WONT SOMEONE STOP THIS DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE OF BEING ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR A BETA THAT IS ACTUALLY A BETA AND REQUIRES ACTUAL DATA COLLECTION (THAT I CAN ACTUALLY OPT OUT OF IF I DONT WANT TO PARTICIPATE) TO ACTUAL DO ITS ACTUAL BETA JOB OF IMPROVING THE SOFTWARE?! SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!11one!1”
Ah yes, it will stay a Beta for ever and data collected will always be only for improvement. This is 100% sure, tech history has always been this way. There is no possible way to turn this otherwise.
“I’m just gonna ignore the fact that I can opt out with a single click, and continue to be a dick about it, because admitting I’m wrong is not something I am willing to ever consider”
You don’t get what I’m saying at all.
Not really sure how this is “dystopian”. Could you explain? It’s a beta program specifically for data collecting.
Everything you own, everything you use collects data. I’m tired of being profiled and analysed. Even a GPU now collects data about me, where does it stop ?
It’s a beta. They need to know how things are performing and being used so they can see things that need fixing and prioritize changes that will have the largest effect. Without data they’re blind and you get worse drivers. Just don’t sign up for the beta if you don’t want to participate in beta testing. It’s easy.
That’s alright for now. But I’m not comfortable having hardware that can actually share data with manufacturers. It might be used for improvement atm, but tech industry has been quite creative lately when it comes to harvesting data and being intrusive. I’m so disappointed in this industry on that matter that I may have become too cautious, idk
It stops when you don’t sign up to a beta to test drivers for the sole purpose of data collection I guess.
Has r/aboringdystopia made the move to federation?
Thing is, there are alternatives but people settle for cheap and convenient. Lots of people hate Apple because of some odd contrarian marketing reason. Apple doesn’t do this. Linux is another option. Both are hugely better for regular people than Windows.
How you can be so sure about Apple all of their software and now their hardware is proprietary? They are the only ones that know what’s going behind the scenes. I would not trust Apple at all I prefer Linux over anything.
I don’t trust apple at all
Wireshark
Let’s be fair. Apple doesn’t do this quite so blatantly and egregiously, but they do it. They collect plenty of telemetry, and it’s getting harder to opt-out of/block it with their own chipsets.
Edit: I say this as an Apple user.
Yes. A lot of Linux folks hate Apple because they are every bit slimey as Windows but hide behind a veneer of respectability due to higher-end nature of the market they target. So a bunch of yuppies shill for them.
I have an American cousin who refuses to contact me on either WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (I gave him three fucking’ options) because "I only trust Apple with my contacts list "
Ok, well I’m not spending a euro-per SMS, so we won’t casually chat from time to time. Goodbye.
I might be a bit jaded.
Yeah. Apple is super slimy. They just hide it better. I’d like to move away from Apple entirely, but I’m kinda stuck right now. I can’t afford to just get rid of perfectly good phones and tablets to try and replace them with better privacy options.
I do what I can to protect my privacy on apple devices, but I don’t trust them at all.
I don’t blame you. I’d definitely choose apple over Windows at least on the desktop side of things. You get a Unixy experience and their UI is pretty good.
I am still a Gnome user mostly because the interface is Maclike and I came to Linux from the Mac world.
That and as far as phones and tablets go, your options are really limited if you want to go the custom ROM route. ARM is horrible in that each SOC needs its own custom kernel. A very different world from x86.
The tablet and mobile limitations really suck. I edit my photos on my iPad, (and privacy issues aside), I love the iPad for this, and don’t have any plans to abandon it.
I’d consider a pixel with graphene, but not until the phone I have dies/is unusable.
Bunch of people I know (as an American) use Signal and Telegram along with iMessage. Your cousin sounds like a pretentious dickhead
Bingo! He’s a New-York-based cinematographer. You hit the nail on the head. 😂
Haha, the duality of the NYer. I’m also a NYer but upstate.
Mac even had special rules so firewalls (including Little Snitch) couldn’t block access to Apple’s own data collection servers.
Yeah. That’s some real bullshit. As soon as I can get functional Linux on my M1 Mac mini, I plan to.
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