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I’m planning to just Google my way out of this, but what’s the cleanest way to block the repo I’ve been using in yay from updates without uninstalling the version I’ve got running already?
Are you using the AUR? The package will probably just get orphaned or the upstream will change to a duplicate repo. I don’t see Yuzu or Citra going anywhere considering they are open source.
This shouldn’t need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.
Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn’t really “enough” in the face of even rudimentary protections.
The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)
In this case, they’ll be fine. They made a LLC and didn’t take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.
It’s unclear how this would have actually shaken out, but probably just because Nintendo is Nintendo, it would have gone in their favor. And yuzu didn’t want to be the one to set bad precedent for any future endeavors.
Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.
Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.
It’s the other way around imo. I don’t want to pay hundreds of euros for a console (which is still just a computer) that is slower than my phone just because Nintendo puts artificial restrictions on what hardware the software they make can run on. I already have a PC that could run those games perfectly fine. Or rather, it can run those games perfectly fine, way better than a Switch actually. Unfortunately, the only way for me to play those games on my PC, without having to buy a console I don’t need, is to pirate them.
So basically, I can either pirate the games for free to play them on my PC or I pay for a console for no other reason but to get the privilege of being able to pay for the games.
Same here. I’m not gonna pay lots of money for a locked down piece of hardware that makes me pay indefinitely to play online and could take away my purchased games at a moment’s notice.
I still occasionally buy physical switch games to play on my sibling’s switch. I buy physical because there’s a resale value to the game. I feel like I actually own a copy of the game.
Anyways, I have a big Steam backlog that I’ll never get to because of 1) Factorio, 2) A personal game I’m programming in HTML/CSS/JS, and 3) riding my motorcycle.
Factorio is the closest thing we have to time travel. Start the game and suddenly it’s 5 hours later and there’s still that one part you could optimize. I fucking love this game.
I have 600h in the game. 80h in my first game, 260h in my bad attempt at a megabase, 25h in a 100% achievements world, and a few random maps. I haven’t even tried doing a deathworld yet.
Then once you think you are done, then there are the mods. I have 123h in one overhaul modpack, enough to technically beat it but not truly scale up. There are several other similar scale modpacks, and there exists a certain hardcore modpack that people say takes 1000h or more to beat.
The consoles are the fucking things I don’t want to buy… I’m sick of Nintendo and their “buy my console or fuck you” motto…
I haven’t bought an Xbox since the 360 and haven’t bought a PlayStation since PS4 because I’m so sick of dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one or two games since the parent companies are assholes and won’t have the games ported to PC. At least Sony and Microsoft got the message that you can have your console and sell the games on PC
The Switch runs even first party Nintendo games like dogshit on top of all that. People will say it’s the developer’s fault, to which I say Nintendo owns the fucking developer so it’s still their fault.
Also, Nintendo is the only console company that doesn’t port to PC. The fuck are all the annoying anti-Epic Store bros when it comes time to yell at Nintendo?
Very easy if it was an earlier model, although I’ve seen some of the newer modchips make soldering about as simplified as possible (but still kinda hard, it’s a tiny board to be fiddling with). I literally hacked my current switch with some aluminum foil and tape (my jig broke, I guess), and besides all that all you need is a decent microsd card and the willingness to follow directions
This is a hot take if I’ve ever seen one. I may disagree with this particular action but supporting companies that make games I want to play and are demonstrably fun is never morally wrong.
Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.
It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary’s gofundme. Please don’t do that.
yes that was what he was doing was selling Hardware mod chips that you could hook to it to be able to run custom firmware which allowed you to pirate games, the issue stemmed from how they were advertising the project. They weren’t advertising the project as a run your own custom firmware/ backup solution, they were selling the product with the intent that it was being used to pirate
I disagree with selling pirated roms but, he also wasn’t part of the development team he was closer to a sales associate then anything. the punishment given to him was cruel and unusable and honestly a failure of the legal system.
I see this on the same level as forcing a sales associate at Walmart to pay the fine of all the wage violations the company as a whole did. It’s rediculous.
I personally will never be buying a Nintendo product again out of principle.
Please don’t conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.
you mean the MiGSwitch, a device for dumping and preserving switch ROMs? I would love to have one for personal backups, and it pairs well with yuzu. Team Xecuter is credibly presumed to be the developers, so that’s likely Bowser’s current hobby.
Bowser helped create and support online libraries of pirated videogames for its customers, and several of the enterprise’s devices came preloaded with pirated videogames.
Do you really believe that the last statement by yuzu is their own opinion? It really reads as it was written by a Nintendo lawyer and they just needed to sign it.
Yuzu has always expressed that opinion about piracy publicly. Whether they actually believe that is another matter, but it’s nothing new for them to say that.
Basically every emulator developer will say that their platform is not for piracy but for backing up your legally purchased games, but it’s usually just a “wink wink nudge nudge” type of thing for legal reasons.
This is what Nintendo wants people to think. They want you to think hacking your own hardware is synonymous with copyright infringement. And it’s categorically not. Just like collecting knives isn’t synonymous with committing murder.
I agree that Yuzu was toeing a fine line when they should have instead steered far clear of it and only supported playback of homebrew apps without encryption, but that’s not to say they did anything ethically wrong. Backing up your own files shouldn’t be a right we lose just because of criminals walking around “wink wink, nudge nudging” each other. Punish the murderers, not the knife sellers.
They must know they fucked up somewhere and decided to go this route rather than get exposed for potential shenanigans. From reading comments in other communities I was surprised to see a lot of people expected this outcome, although nobody was particularly specific about why (maybe someone here can give some insight.) For the record I’ve been on team “Fuck Nintendo” after the Gamecube, but I’d take the fact that other emulators haven’t been targeted as possible hint that Nintendo got wind of something wacky going on. Who knows, maybe they’re next?
They ran a LLC company and earned a quite substantial amount of money with Yuzu. I also suspect that they don’t actually plan to pay much of this fine and just let the LLC go bankrupt.
You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you’re still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.
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I agree to never give Nintendo my money again, I hope they also shut down someday.
Before I could afford a PC good enough to run TotK :(
What happened to the lawsuit that said that emulation is legal?
Probably take a dim view of it when emulating current gen games.
Also they made a ton of money off it.
It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.
Fuck it up to heaven’s way. Dietendo
Fuck Nintendo :)
I’m planning to just Google my way out of this, but what’s the cleanest way to block the repo I’ve been using in yay from updates without uninstalling the version I’ve got running already?
Are you using the AUR? The package will probably just get orphaned or the upstream will change to a duplicate repo. I don’t see Yuzu or Citra going anywhere considering they are open source.
Yeah pretty sure I installed the experimental branch from the AUR. I just didn’t want the repo to be poisoned or something. 🤷♂️
Thanks for the info!
Emulator devs should rly do their best to be anonymous
This shouldn’t need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.
Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn’t really “enough” in the face of even rudimentary protections.
The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)
In this case, they’ll be fine. They made a LLC and didn’t take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.
IANAL, but there are a bunch of carve outs for these purposes.
It’s unclear how this would have actually shaken out, but probably just because Nintendo is Nintendo, it would have gone in their favor. And yuzu didn’t want to be the one to set bad precedent for any future endeavors.
Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.
Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.
It’s the other way around imo. I don’t want to pay hundreds of euros for a console (which is still just a computer) that is slower than my phone just because Nintendo puts artificial restrictions on what hardware the software they make can run on. I already have a PC that could run those games perfectly fine. Or rather, it can run those games perfectly fine, way better than a Switch actually. Unfortunately, the only way for me to play those games on my PC, without having to buy a console I don’t need, is to pirate them.
So basically, I can either pirate the games for free to play them on my PC or I pay for a console for no other reason but to get the privilege of being able to pay for the games.
Same here. I’m not gonna pay lots of money for a locked down piece of hardware that makes me pay indefinitely to play online and could take away my purchased games at a moment’s notice.
I still occasionally buy physical switch games to play on my sibling’s switch. I buy physical because there’s a resale value to the game. I feel like I actually own a copy of the game.
Anyways, I have a big Steam backlog that I’ll never get to because of 1) Factorio, 2) A personal game I’m programming in HTML/CSS/JS, and 3) riding my motorcycle.
Factorio is the closest thing we have to time travel. Start the game and suddenly it’s 5 hours later and there’s still that one part you could optimize. I fucking love this game.
I have 600h in the game. 80h in my first game, 260h in my bad attempt at a megabase, 25h in a 100% achievements world, and a few random maps. I haven’t even tried doing a deathworld yet.
Then once you think you are done, then there are the mods. I have 123h in one overhaul modpack, enough to technically beat it but not truly scale up. There are several other similar scale modpacks, and there exists a certain hardcore modpack that people say takes 1000h or more to beat.
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The consoles are the fucking things I don’t want to buy… I’m sick of Nintendo and their “buy my console or fuck you” motto…
I haven’t bought an Xbox since the 360 and haven’t bought a PlayStation since PS4 because I’m so sick of dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one or two games since the parent companies are assholes and won’t have the games ported to PC. At least Sony and Microsoft got the message that you can have your console and sell the games on PC
The Switch runs even first party Nintendo games like dogshit on top of all that. People will say it’s the developer’s fault, to which I say Nintendo owns the fucking developer so it’s still their fault.
Also, Nintendo is the only console company that doesn’t port to PC. The fuck are all the annoying anti-Epic Store bros when it comes time to yell at Nintendo?
Shit. How easy/safe is it to hack the Switch?
Very easy if it was an earlier model, although I’ve seen some of the newer modchips make soldering about as simplified as possible (but still kinda hard, it’s a tiny board to be fiddling with). I literally hacked my current switch with some aluminum foil and tape (my jig broke, I guess), and besides all that all you need is a decent microsd card and the willingness to follow directions
This is a hot take if I’ve ever seen one. I may disagree with this particular action but supporting companies that make games I want to play and are demonstrably fun is never morally wrong.
The world is more complex than that.
FTFY
No, you didn’t.
Reminder that paying money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Steal the consoles and pirate if you have to play the games.
Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.
It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary’s gofundme. Please don’t do that.
There’s no way that kind of punishment is allowed by the 8th amendment. This is definitely an unusual punishment.
Reminder that “poor Gary” was selling pirated roms.
lmao imagine thinking this makes him look less symathetic rather than more. What a fucking loser you are.
I pirated my dick straight into your dad’s ass.
I thought he was selling chips that let you do piracy
Either way, he and his descendants should be indentured servants to Nintendo. His lineage must be shamed.
yes that was what he was doing was selling Hardware mod chips that you could hook to it to be able to run custom firmware which allowed you to pirate games, the issue stemmed from how they were advertising the project. They weren’t advertising the project as a run your own custom firmware/ backup solution, they were selling the product with the intent that it was being used to pirate
I disagree with selling pirated roms but, he also wasn’t part of the development team he was closer to a sales associate then anything. the punishment given to him was cruel and unusable and honestly a failure of the legal system.
I see this on the same level as forcing a sales associate at Walmart to pay the fine of all the wage violations the company as a whole did. It’s rediculous.
I personally will never be buying a Nintendo product again out of principle.
Oh, the horror! I guess that justifies ruining his life forever.
Ah yes, the despicable crime of selling bootlegs can only be punished by permanent service to a billion dollar company. Makes sense.
Who gives a fuck that doesn’t entitle them to ruin his life.
Please don’t conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.
you mean the MiGSwitch, a device for dumping and preserving switch ROMs? I would love to have one for personal backups, and it pairs well with yuzu. Team Xecuter is credibly presumed to be the developers, so that’s likely Bowser’s current hobby.
No, I mean charging money for pirated copies of games
This behavior was never condoned by the Yuzu developers
Do you really believe that the last statement by yuzu is their own opinion? It really reads as it was written by a Nintendo lawyer and they just needed to sign it.
Yuzu has always expressed that opinion about piracy publicly. Whether they actually believe that is another matter, but it’s nothing new for them to say that.
Basically every emulator developer will say that their platform is not for piracy but for backing up your legally purchased games, but it’s usually just a “wink wink nudge nudge” type of thing for legal reasons.
This is what Nintendo wants people to think. They want you to think hacking your own hardware is synonymous with copyright infringement. And it’s categorically not. Just like collecting knives isn’t synonymous with committing murder.
I agree that Yuzu was toeing a fine line when they should have instead steered far clear of it and only supported playback of homebrew apps without encryption, but that’s not to say they did anything ethically wrong. Backing up your own files shouldn’t be a right we lose just because of criminals walking around “wink wink, nudge nudging” each other. Punish the murderers, not the knife sellers.
Also believe his (proprietary) software would brick switches if it detected other software, though don’t quote me on that.
Does 30% of the gofundme go to nintendo?
Google says yes
They must know they fucked up somewhere and decided to go this route rather than get exposed for potential shenanigans. From reading comments in other communities I was surprised to see a lot of people expected this outcome, although nobody was particularly specific about why (maybe someone here can give some insight.) For the record I’ve been on team “Fuck Nintendo” after the Gamecube, but I’d take the fact that other emulators haven’t been targeted as possible hint that Nintendo got wind of something wacky going on. Who knows, maybe they’re next?
They ran a LLC company and earned a quite substantial amount of money with Yuzu. I also suspect that they don’t actually plan to pay much of this fine and just let the LLC go bankrupt.
Financially the right move. If what I read was correct, it would take approx. 8 years of steady Patreon income to get to the $2.4M figure anyway.
Does anyone have a copy of the compiling guide? it just points me to a 404 page.
Already the installer is gone. I can’t find it anywhere.
There he is!
Thanks!!
I would be surprised if there wasn’t a differently named fork up somewhere within a week. Not like the program itself was infringing on any law.
There’s just no winning a legal battle against a spiteful company that could drown you in fees before you even reach a ruling.
As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don’t have it!!!
doesn’t look like there’s download links anymore
How do I turn off Yuzu’s auto-update? I don’t want my computer to connect to a website that Nintendo now owns every time I boot up the emulator.
I have the opposite question. How do I make sure that Nintendo knows every time I run yuzu?
You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you’re still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.
Thanks!
Anyone got the windows installer?
boom!
Lots of people have already forked it. I think it’s even backed up on the Internet Archive too. You could also check the Yuzu subreddit as well.