It’s either them or VPN provider, but with most VPN providers you lose ipv6

Cryptography where users have to trust the server is a bit funky

Is your SPF and DMARC set up properly

An email address might be good too unless part of the key

I have received maybe 3 spam messages in many years of use

Spam is a huge problem on other messaging apps I have tried

Contacts are never uploaded

Hashes of some numbers are if you enable contact discovery

Verifying keys is easy, what are you talking about?

The idea is you don’t need to trust the server

Messages sent don’t contain a readable sender field

Mobile numbers may not be necessary long term, architecture depends on accounts being created Witt phone numbers. Usernames were very recently introduced. Soon we may see requirement for phone number dropped, unless related to spam control

Secret sender invalidates your metadata argument

It doesn’t “mess with your contacts”. You can choose to give contacts access if you wish to have secure contact discovery. Contacts are not uploaded.

It’s robustly encrypted and quantum secure, without metadata leaks like the sender of a message.

It’s recommended by Edward Snowden.

If you want to message someone, have the ability to verify there is no man in the middle attack, have perfect forward secrecy, very strong crypto, use open source software and still have all the conveniences of a modern message app, use signal.

Secret sender stops any real amount of information about messages being connected to you

What kind of security is google good for?

I care about privacy I use gmail

Pick one

Isn’t this the TV show Person of Interest?

Poe’s law

Sure, but on my WiFi network with my flat mates there would be like five concurrently logged in email accounts constantly connected and receiving traffic from proton. And then behind CGNAT that might extend to a hundred people concurrently logged in with one IP.

The false positives would drive away so many more paying or future paying customers it wouldn’t be worth trying

Only thing I can think of is fingerprinting devices but then that’d be obvious, break their business model and also drive away customers

Due to CGNAT it’s likely to have up to hundreds or thousands of unrelated customers sharing an IPv4 address

I have it installed too. What does your battery page have to say

8 pro here but I think the 9 has maybe 5% ish less battery life? Same thing here with Spotify lol the buffering probably interrupts sleep

So far today, I have taken about an hour of 1080p video and I have lost about 20% battery. Screen has been on about 1.5 hours today. Most days I have about 3.5 hours of screen time. After 8.5 hours on Tuesday I was down to about 35% (from 80%)

Strange. I charge to 80% only, lasts 2 days. Might be something you have installed?

Meanwhile chrome uploads a log of everything you do to google, and ad blockers don’t work anymore

Without advertising money and alternate revenue streams there would be no Mozilla

The page you linked

You are not the product.

To us, data ownership and privacy are your right wherever you live. Our commitment to your personal data is simple:

We do not collect or store it unless you ask us to.

We take great care to keep it safe from misuse.

We will never sell it.

You retain ownership and control of it.

Heck even clicking the next link you posted has a full explanation. I can’t consider your comment to be anything other than the wilful spread of misinformation and slander.

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/01/thunderbirds-new-home/

The move will allow the project to collect revenue through partnerships and non-charitable donations, which in turn can be used to cover the costs of new products and services.

Even competent programmers cannot look at an app in an afternoon and determine if it’s safe, apart from the most glaringly obvious issues

Raytracing at decent framerates is only possible with these cards for 1080p or 1440p…

No 1440p or 1080p benchmarks :(

Imagine getting offended by someone asking for more details

That sounds like throwing reason and logic out the window, what’s the context?

Traitor to his species

??? Lol? Imagine having an opinion in 2025

Nailed it, Americans get so offended and divided on these issues that they just throw reason and logic out the window

Yes

Bare in mind the chipset is the Google Tensor G4, they already had to design and build their own hardware. We don’t know everything it can do

Some cool features, wonder what backdoors google have put in the hardware

Authy in that list works fine too

Yes. These apps work and bank apps work fine. Netflix works too.

Physical access is game over anyway?

And yet there’s a brand new one! GPC

I use cheap motorola phone with lineage OS, add that to your options

Someone installing graphene os for security shouldn’t be trusting random second/third/etc hand hardware lol

Right? Have to pay google for the privilege