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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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This is not exclusive to states, try to whistle-blow company secrets to see what happens…
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Nothing to hide…
It’s the same reason I don’t support free speach: I’ve got nothing to say.
/s
Government always tries to establish as much power imbalance as possible
Bruh it’s the government. They have plenty of things to hide.
Putin Alert! Putin Alert! This guy supports Vladimir Putin! He is undermining the US so that the Russians can invade! Also, the Chinese! Also the… uh… Cubans? Venezuelans? Quebecians? Idk, but its bad! They’re coming to take your freedom! Protect the NSA! PROTECT THE NSA! THEY STAND BETWEEN YOU AND TYRANNY!
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Canadian bacon!
Inb4 some Quebec person comes in and complains about “Quebecians”
I’ll allow it, in fact here in Quebecistan we call Cuba comrades. Always have. One of our favorite vacation destination too.
Phonecians are from phoenix.
Yeahh, those guys invented the phonetic alphabet back in the days, didn’t they? Bravo, Papa Queef!
played well.
Say whatever you want, Snowden’s a fucking hero for sharing this.
Don’t forget the people that tried to blow the whistle on the NSA prior to Snowden
This argument of “nothing to hide” always reminds me of Google, show me this man’s balls, please by Eric Andre.
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Google, show me this man’s balls, please
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Warthunder forum be like
Everytime someone says they don’t have anything to hide I ask them what the pin of their phone is and to give me their phone. Suddenly that’s something different…
There is a difference between having nothing to hide and not closing the door when talking a shit
A right to privacy? Not in my country, thank you very much.
The government has every right to watch you take a shit and if you don’t acknowledge that then you must be conspiring to deprive us of our freedoms.
What I’m hearing is that people have an inert desire for privacy, EVEN if they don’t have anything to hide (what are you hiding in the toilet?) I don’t see why that wouldn’t extend into the digital realm…
And what is it?
I once asked a friend if he trusted the lock on his phone (brand new iPhone 15 Pro Max, latest and greatest). He told me he did. I asked him if I could use his phone while it was locked, and he told me “No, I don’t trust you. You would probably hack it or something.” That statement says two things:
He only cares about attacks on privacy on a personal level, which is the mental flaw lots of people have.
He doesn’t actually trust the lock on his phone, but refuses to admit it.
By the way, here’s a few fun gimmicks you can pull on iPhone users:
See if you can swipe left to view widgets on the lock screen. I was able to get someone’s address this way. He told me the whole time “There’s nothing you can find there.” and then afterwards said “Ah, crap.”
If there is a lock screen mini widget (under the time) for a clock or related feature, tap on it and it will open the clock app. You can also get there if you can swipe down to access control center if the “timer” button is enabled there. You can then make it look like you unlocked their phone, and start reading off their alarm names. This one has freaked out a lot of people.
If they realize how you got there and try disabling control center access on the lock screen (as they should, FaceID is fast enough people!), you can see if you can access Siri and say “View my alarms”.
I can see why your friend would assume you could hack their phone based on how specific these steps are.
Me: graphene phone with notifications hidden until unlocked. No voice assistant whatsoever. I guess the only thing you can do is take pictures from lock screen but that’s not really useful. It doesn’t show gallery of previous photos.
Even default android has such settings. I can view what song I’m listening to, take new photos and theoretically take short notes(haven’t figured out how it works) and that’s it. Also since I disabled the Google assistant, they can’t do anything with it too.
Ah that’s cool. Had no idea you could disable google assistant without doing some weird stuff with your phone.
I disabled the speech detection and the button underneath my volume control. If I tap my home button for to long it still activates, but I don’t use it.
*grabs popcorn*Sorry, but the cases are too different. The secrets of the government serve a completely different purpose than those of the citizens.
Is that justification for spying on civilians?
I never say that. Thats a straw man-argument.
Or so you are told by people unwilling to be under strict oversight from independent authorities.
“I do this for good reasons, trust me” is not a valid argument.
Yes. The problem is, when one country has had a intelligence agency and the other has not, the one with the agency has a advantage. At least, under the same conditions.
I see the tension between a republican (res publica, “thing of the public”) State and the existence of such secrets. The question is if a state without this could exist under the current circumstances. There are a lot room for doubts here, I fear.
The government is an illegitimate state. We live in a dictatorship on stolen indigenous ground. Fuck Charles and fuck the government.
Not all of us lived in America.
Do you think I live in America when I say we live in a dictatorship and fuck Charles?
I mean…the state does have legitimate things to hide beyond their spying programs. Not every person that spills government secrets is as careful as Snowden.
A ‘State’ is not inherently bad. That’s just libertarian propaganda/dogma. Self-interested psychopaths in charge of a state is bad…
Unfortunately it’s usually self-interested psychopaths who seek out and obtain those positions, especially since you need to be a bit psychotic to do what’s required to get there.
any state is bad because taxes are evil
Taxes used for public good and infrastructure are what taxes are supposed to be for. And they should be raised and collected proportionally to your wealth.
Neither of those statements describe how the US handles taxes.
Ohh man that one must hurt
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Oh boy, here comes the political drama. Can we not do this?
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Funny thing about ancap libertarianism is that they’ve correctly identified that power can lead to tyranny, but they’re completely oblivious to the power that corporatism (the conclusion of lassez-faire capitalism) results in.
tHe mArKeT wIlL rEgUlAtE tHeM
They often are Christians, so they apply fundamentalist style thinking and cannot challenge the assumptions they made.
States always wind up being run by self-interested psychopaths.
That’s not a “flaw;” it’s the fundamental nature of the concept.
Being an self-interested psychopath is almost a requirement to be a company owner/manager
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We need a strong authoritarian leader and a massive police force to keep the people in line.
I think you forgot a /s
What makes you think I’m joking?
I assumed you were well intentioned and not trolling
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Lol lots of people think that no entity has the right to monopolize violence against a population.
The state is kinda bad and it’s not only Right-Libertarians who say that. Even so, leaking documents is not always bad. Like, the Abu Ghraib leak was objectively good.
Abu Graib wasn’t leaked. Amnesty International talked to prisoners that were released. Then the Red Cross used their oversight powers to get in and make an official report. Then a soldier reported the crimes to the Army’s version of the FBI, (CID). The Army then did an investigation and started arresting people.
Joe Darby came forward with the photographs, effectively leaking them. Rumsfeld later leaked Joe Darby’s name and identity, leading to him receiving death threats.
He “leaked” them to CID.