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Frankly I was hoping they’d go after Ford for their unconscionable monopoly on the production of Mustangs.

Free the Pony!

Isn’t that the whole point of these antitrust cases?

Company makes a product that no one else makes. People like it and buy it. Product becomes popular. Company makes money. (That’s the reason for being in business, isn’t it?). Suddenly someone notices that the product, which no one else makes, has earned a whole lot of money for the company.

ThAt’s nOt fAiR, tHeY’Re tOo pOpUlAr, No oNe eLsE CaN CoMpEtE, wE NeEd tO BrEaK Up tHe cOmPaNy sO We cAn gRaB A SlIcE Of tHeIr pIe!

That’s not what this is about. It’s about Apple controlling it so heavily, that nobody can compete. Do you see any other Tap n Pay apps other than Apple Pay, for example? Why not? Because Apple are stifling competitors, which is illegal.

There’s also Google and Samsung pay, to be fair, but it’s not open to wider competition besides the biggest brands.

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I have no issues with Apple controlling the Iphone. That’s why I buy it. If I didn’t like it I could buy an android phone.

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The golden cage is extra comfortable to you, huh?

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If I didn’t want it, I wouldn’t have an Iphone. I would have something else.

It’s not about you.

What is it about? Article is paywalled.

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Apologies, I didn’t mean to post a paywalled article. I read several and this is just the one that I copied the link to. You can always look it up for yourself though

No worries, I appreciate the updated link

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Yeah come to think of it that title is poorly written

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Yea the specific issue is

The department joined 16 states and the District of Columbia to file a significant challenge to the reach and influence of Apple, arguing in an 88-page lawsuit that the company had violated antitrust laws with practices that were intended to keep customers reliant on their iPhones and less likely to switch to a competing device. The tech giant prevented other companies from offering applications that compete with Apple products like its digital wallet, which could diminish the value of the iPhone, and hurts consumers and smaller companies that compete with it, the government said.

so that’s a good thing :)

“We need you to stop making a good product so your customers can finally move away from it.”

Just like how Windows Explorer was stopped because it was such a good product?

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There was a lawsuit to remove Windows Explorer? Did you mean to say Internet Explorer?

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The quality isn’t really the issue, it’s when the company

  • prevents competing apps from being installed
  • prevents devices from other manufacturers from using your apps (or intentionally degrading services on other devices)
  • making it hard to use files/media outside the proprietary apps (ex. iTunes in the past, and maybe still now)

This issue isn’t limited to Apple, but Apple is the well known example for locking people into an ecosystem whether they like it or not

Do you have an example of them rejecting a quality product from being used in their phones?

Another big example is any web-browser that isn’t safari. That should be changing soon/recently (see here https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/25/24050478/apple-ios-17-4-browser-engines-eu) but that’s only because Apple was forced to.

Each developer will have to be authorized by Apple to switch engines “after meeting specific criteria and committing to a number of ongoing privacy and security mitigations,”

Now they can babysit other browsers and make sure they’re secure too, ig. Might as well throw that responsibility on the trillion dollar company. At least the browsers will end up more secure once the apple security team audits them.

You were already provided with examples in this comment thread:

Non-apple watches, for instance, can’t use GPS from an iPhone or cause it to emit sound to local lost phones, despite being previously able to, demonstrating no technical limitations just a walled-garden limitation

Which manufacturers and which products?

Literally everything that’s not manufactured and sold by Apple.

“We need you to stop making a good product forcing your customers to only use your version so your customers can finally move away from it.” Fixed it. Non-apple watches, for instance, can’t use GPS from an iPhone or cause it to emit sound to local lost phones, despite being previously able to, demonstrating no technical limitations just a walled-garden limitation

Do you happen to know why they removed that feature?

Is there an answer to that question that would make these practices reasonable? (while also being plausibly true)

Security.

In what way is a device you’ve purchase and paired with your phone, requesting that the phone it’s paired to make a noise; a security flaw/issue?

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How would that actually help security?

To keep their walled garden.

The officially given reason probably was “sEcUriTy”

Security is the main reason you should get an iPhone, tbh.

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Not really, pretty much every brand has had security issues and they all patch them fairly quickly

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