A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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“We need you to stop making a good product so your customers can finally move away from it.”
Just like how Windows Explorer was stopped because it was such a good product?
There was a lawsuit to remove Windows Explorer? Did you mean to say Internet Explorer?
The quality isn’t really the issue, it’s when the company
This issue isn’t limited to Apple, but Apple is the well known example for locking people into an ecosystem whether they like it or not
Do you have an example of them rejecting a quality product from being used in their phones?
Another big example is any web-browser that isn’t safari. That should be changing soon/recently (see here https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/25/24050478/apple-ios-17-4-browser-engines-eu) but that’s only because Apple was forced to.
Now they can babysit other browsers and make sure they’re secure too, ig. Might as well throw that responsibility on the trillion dollar company. At least the browsers will end up more secure once the apple security team audits them.
You were already provided with examples in this comment thread:
Which manufacturers and which products?
Literally everything that’s not manufactured and sold by Apple.
Pick one and post the issue then.
“We need you to stop
making a good productforcing your customers to only use your version so your customers can finally move away from it.” Fixed it. Non-apple watches, for instance, can’t use GPS from an iPhone or cause it to emit sound to local lost phones, despite being previously able to, demonstrating no technical limitations just a walled-garden limitationDo you happen to know why they removed that feature?
Is there an answer to that question that would make these practices reasonable? (while also being plausibly true)
Security.
In what way is a device you’ve purchase and paired with your phone, requesting that the phone it’s paired to make a noise; a security flaw/issue?
Tracking purposes, perhaps.
Are you high?
Tracking?
Explain to me how you would perform any sort of tracking via a secured communication between two devices: ‘hey phone, can you beep once’ ‘sure’ beep.
Sure. An ex-boyfriend doesn’t take the breakup from his girlfriend well, and decides to locate her. He remembers his phone used to be paired with hers, and decides to use that to find her.
As much as you want to fight me and make fun of me for this, this is a serious concern.
How would that actually help security?
Thats why I’m asking if they know why the feature was removed so I can look up the specifics.
To keep their walled garden.
The officially given reason probably was “sEcUriTy”
Security is the main reason you should get an iPhone, tbh.
Not really, pretty much every brand has had security issues and they all patch them fairly quickly
Thats not true. There are still phones out there being actively used that have been end of life for years now. There is no way to corral those insecure devices.
I’d have to review exactly how long each brand releases updates for, especially because they’ve all been one upping each other recently. However there’s nothing specific to Apple’s anticompetitive behavior that relates to how long they release updates for.
Ideally they’d all provide support for longer
The lack of updates to old devices might be exactly why apple doesn’t want to be compatible with them. It’s a HUGE attack surface. They can’t babysit every device’s downfall.