It’s discrediting valid concerns against card-payments. It’s invalidating how great cash is.

It’s when the worst person you know makes a good point.

And things now are so Culture-Wars-y, nobody makes solid analyses any more, that when the far-right say cards are bad, everybody jumps to thinking cards are good.

Covid made this really hard and somewhat political. A lot of businesses stopped taking cash. Some still don’t take cash. Covid was never spread much in surfaces but I wasn’t trying to argue and look like some whack job antivax person.

We need to stop making privacy and free speech political

Remember, ABC:

Always Carry Cash

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Always Bring Cash?

Always Bing Chilling

Ye, it’s all a right wing conspiracy! Or left! Or middle… Who cares, just keep consuming and don’t ask questions.

I wouldn’t mind using cash, but I also don’t want to keep a bunch of money lying around my house aside emergency funds. I also don’t want to drive all the way to a bank branch or some ATM in a sketchy part of town in the middle of the night to buy something

Credit cards have also made it too easy for entire countries to rack up life ruining debt. It’s the point, I suppose.

I suppose the ultimate compromise is: use a credit card to withdraw cash (many companies allow this), and use that cash for private purchases. Though I’m not sure how chargebacks work with withdrawn cash.

I don’t see how conspiracy theories would discredit cash over card. They often cite the same reasons any other anti-card payment people have. They just have weird reasons to need those features. If they’re paranoid about being “got” by “them,” they’re usually into the private nature of cash and all that goes along with it, same as any other privacy concerned person.

They certainly don’t hurt it as much as drug dealers and money launderers.

We have several stores that refuse to accept cash. A few weeks ago, we had a pretty harsh storm that knocked out power to major parts of the city for a little over a week. The area where these stores are was affected. All the stores next to them have always accepted cash. The surrounding stores continued to have business for that week, while those cash-deterrent stores had no business, and lost their edge (niche market, but they opened first in the area, so people knew them best). It’s been weeks, and those stores still have not picked up foot traffic to levels before the blackout, and one just had a liquidation sale and will likely close soon. Cash should always be an option. Otherwise, we give up our independence from the supporting systems (electricity, internet, payment processors, etc.). On a side note, cash is a lot more private than card.

That is illegal where I am. Everyone has to accept cash, here.

I think it’s illegal here, too, but they started doing this at covid, after years of trying. If you fight them with it and try to make them accept cash, they’ll just ask you leave. If you stay after being asked to leave, you’re now trespassing, which is also illegal and is treated much more harshly than refusing to accept cash.

I recently learned that all governments participating in the Euro guarantee that business have to accept cash. Refusing it is a violation of the accords.

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I didn’t know that. That’s a cool tidbit!

Personally I never use cash anymore, because cards are just more convenient. That being said, I agree with the conspiracy nuts that cash should always stay a viable alternative. I trust the current government and banks enough, but if all goes to shit I want to be able to pay with cash to keep my data safe.

I actually saw a sticker recently placed on a bus stop saying “save Poland, use cash” and I was very perplexed by it. I suspected it was some far-right/alt-right bs, but wasn’t sure.

This is a non-post, as it doesn’t even bring its own analysis to the table. What are the valid concerns against card payments? What is so great about cash?

The convenience of card payments heavily outweighs the (i assume privacy) concerns. So what if anyone knows I stuffed myself with an unhealthy amount of chips? I keep my cash for things that don’t accept other ways of payment, like bus fare and my drug dealer.

I see your point, though. It isn’t solely applicable to this issue; any discussion is mudded by disagreeing just for the sake of rejecting anything anyone with an opposing view on a distinct and unrelated subject.

Cops have been able to track people down with just unique shirts bought online. If they can track the shirt down, they can get a warrant to find the card used to establish that you’re indeed the suspect. “I don’t do bad thing” is a pointless argument, because like cops say, anything can be used against you.

I agree electronic payments are more beneficial than harmful. In terms of privacy in the mass surveillance world we live in, using cash just forces the watchers to use your cellphone data instead. I think privacy these days is mostly about living an uninteresting life.

In the UK buses and taxis increasingly take cards, and are phasing out cash. Same goes for shops. Having a card becomes the norm because it’s less fiddly and more convenient - great!

To open a bank account you need a fixed address and proof of ID in the form of a passport or driving license.

In the last year several thousand people have had bank accounts closed under the presumption of being a “politically vulnerable person”, one example was a teacher who went to volunteer in Ukraine for while.

If your bank account is overdrawn you get fees and are unable to use your card.

My mother is 85 and doesn’t understand ATMs, never mind online banking. The decreased access to cash has left her confused, and when stressed she can’t remember her pin number.

So, the most vulnerable in society are gradually being squeezed out of the ability to live day-to-day thanks to cash being phased out … the same is a desirable end-point for many capitalists elsewhere in the first world because they don’t see the value of people on the bottom rung.

I just bought a new wallet that has a coin pouch because I use cash (and coins) so frequently.

Even if I disagree with a political faction often, I’m perfectly willing to show support when I do agree. It’s the honest thing to do.

Perhaps start life from a place where a fellow human being isn’t subhuman because they disagree with your views and this will be less of a thing

How do we get people to do that?

Start with quit voting for a duopoly of elites bent on sewing division in the population to further entrench themselves as modern day kings. There’s no original ideas happening except the ones people are told to have by the closely controlled media they’re bombarded with 24 7

Matricaria
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Everyone needs privacy, especially people whom you hate.

A broken clock is right twice a day, as the saying goes.

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Don’t worry, this time next week they’ll be on to the next thing to be angry and afraid about.

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