Proton (@protonprivacy@mastodon.social)
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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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What did they keep?
I switched to StartMail, I’m officially done with ProtonMail. Are you even kidding me, how just how…
I’m disappointed…I tried to not care about this CEO supporting Trump, but come on…now they ditch Mastodon, tomorrow they close source their clients…I’m losing trust to them, I used to think about them as knights in this capitalist world, but well. As someone once said “You either live and die as a legend, or live long enough to become evil”. I don’t want it to happen but yeah, I guess we all gotta find a good replacement for Proton services, sad but it is what it is.
Of all the fuckin places to move to they chose reddit 😭
Because they can control the dialog on reddit
Aww, is someone booty blasted they can’t control the dialog no more?
I’m sad too. But I think it’s quite logical given people that use Mastodon probably already know or heard of proton. Marketing is particularly effective for people that don’t know of them (at least while they are small)
people were using the vpn to evade reddit bans, but even reddit does not like vpn users anymore.
I have Proton email and will ditch it soon.
Indeed. Fuck Swiss Google.
https://tuta.com/
I’m tired of all these ecosystems going fascist.
I’ve never used Proton. I use Njalla
Isn’t Njalla a registrar?
They’re a lot of things.
That’s in line with being from Switzerland. Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest. Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only. You are free to call me racist.
Some of the initial people involved did their university and post grad studies in the US, so they seem more American than Swiss to me and more chose Switzerland to conduct business after starting the company up after meeting at CERN.
Tuta isnt really a replacement for proton. They dont even support PGP encryption, which is kinda the whole point of proton.
Tuta Encryption
Read the last sentence. They dont use PGP for emails.
Find me how you can send PGP emails to someone off tuta. You can’t. They disabled it.
With proton its one click.
They give a reason.
And, if this is what we are talking about, sending a PGP email to a non Proton still requires more than one click and agreement equal, in my experience, to sharing a password for encrypted emails on Tuta.
Proton has an API for getting the PGP keys of all their users. I can send any proton user an encrypted email, and I attach my public key to the email (Thunderbird does this by default).
Then the user only has to click the “trust key” button and all their future emails will be encrypted to my PGP key. It’s 1 click for them.
Tutanota has no way to do this. I read why, but its nonsense. PGP for e2ee is better than no e2ee. Tuta is naked and not a replacement for proton.
I am Swiss myself and I feel like things are changing since Trumps second term, at least my friends seek closer ties to Europe now.
Proton gives me a bad feeling in the stomach, I would encourage people to not trust it. The guy is either a big Trump fan or most of his customers are from that base. The best option for e-mail is selfhost + pgp, the second best option are the various small companies offering email all across Europe.
Does Europe in your first sentence mean the EU or Europe in general, maybe even including Russia?
lol Russia is not particularly popular here right now, we are even on their list of “unfriendly countries” if you didn’t know.
One of the “countries” in that list is the whole EU. That makes it practically meaningless when they have countries like Hungary licking they ass day and night.
Drama. Drama. Deama
I’m seriously starting to consider moving from proton to Fastmail. My renewal is coming up in May.
Is Fastmail US based?
Australia
Ah, so 5 eyes. Tuta is German so 14 eyes. Not a lot of options out there
I switched after the whole CEO issue, but tbh I was annoyed at how limited proton mail was because of encryption. Super happy with Fastmail in comparison! Got 2 domains linked, multiple servers using it for SMTP, a bunch of aliases and masked emails. Calendar and contacts setup on android with DAVx5 to de-google some more. So good.
That’s really good to know! This may seem like a dumb question, but can you use any email app with fastmail? I see they have their own, but I’d really like to use Canary with it if I switch.
I tried Proton years ago and didn’t find it that useful (I can manage my own PGP keys, thank you).
Started switching to Fastmail seriously this month, after having had mail delivery problems with mailbox.org because of DNSSEC issues (they use a deprecated SHA1 signature still) - I have used migadu.com for a different domain for a few years as well but the webmail is a bit sluggish and the spam filter too aggressive, I might end up consolidating on Fastmail for now
Sure it’s Five Eyes so a slight regression from mailbox and migadu, but if it works well enough I might be able to get my family to move off of Gmail so a net win
This is my exact setup, too. It works without any problem using either thunderbird or their web UI.
I switched after the CEO came out supporting Trumps nomination and the republicans being the party of the small guy
There’s also Migadu which I currently use. It doesn’t have all the bells and whistles that providers like Proton and Tuta have with their E2EE but they don’t use any shady marketing or track you. Requires a custom domain though.
I never heard of them, I’ll check them out. Thanks!
Consider mailbox.org too.
Agreed. Fair price, good service.
Cool, I’ll check them out.
Can someone recommend a good and privacy oriented alternative to Proton Drive.
It’s sad that Proton bought SimpleLogin because I was and I’m currently using it before the acquisition.
Tuta mail
Tuta are also enshittifying.
How so?
They show you ads as a premium user and spam your inbox with “news” that’s just poorly disguised upsell attempts.
Do they? I haven’t experienced either of these. Where would I find the ads? Curious if my pihole is hiding them
Nextcloud on a paid plan from some company (e.g. Hetzner) or, if you’ve got the stones for it, Nextcloud self-hosted.
CryptPad. It doesn’t needs email to sign up.
I so want to ditch Proton right now, but I have a lot of resumes out and have been using them for ~4 years, so all of my accounts are linked in a sense.
What to do what to do… I know and fully agree that what’s going on is sus, but I think I need to stick with it for a few more months until the job thing pans out.
Edit: I have a free Tuta account, I’ll start weaning everything off, then cut free when I don’t need to worry about missing an interview opportunity.
yea i used alot emails for my resume when i was job seeking, the one i used switched over during covid, limit “inacitivity to 6 months, deletes your account”, wish it dint. i unfortunately sitll use gmail, although i dont do anything signicant, need another one that doesnt delete your acc after a minimum amount of time. im using another service, thats not gmail or microsofts.
i would probably move all your resumes to another account, put it all on a cloud(i did it with drive, you can do it with dropbox?) and any new resumes use another email service.
I recommend switching to a custom domain in the future so you can avoid situations like this from happening again, this way you won’t be locked down onto a single provider.
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Buying your own domain and pointing its DNS at your email provider. The email provider is still your host, but you get to use maroon@yourdomain.tld everywhere and you can seamlessly switch providers. I’ve done it a few times, now.
Again??? Isn’t this like, the third time they do this?
I know they did in december 2021.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211210133430/https://mastodon.social/@protonmail/107421854866115843