We’re rolling out end-to-end encryption for voice and video calls! We’d like to share why we’re bringing E2EE A/V to Discord, share our design and implementation goals, and provide a high-level technical overview of how it works.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20406932

Hey Discord, give us the ability to stream audio when sharing our screen on Linux ffs.

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Vencord/Vesktop supports audio streaming on Linux and is just a generally better experience compared against the Discord official app. Free and open source.

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+1 for vesktop works great for me

No. 😡

but why?

No I’m not.

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@jeffhykin@lemm.ee
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I mean technically the client is verifiable if you use discord in a browser tab… and verify it every time you load the web page… 🙃

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every time you load the web page…

You said it better than me. 🤣🤣

Am I too harsh […]?

No. If there’s no way to verify anything then all we have to go on is their word.
The word of a company generally isn’t worth a whole lot. Same with Telegram.

The clients are source available for telegram though

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They just mean you now really have to pay to get private data. 🤣

you aren’t. to me this is just PR

End to end directly to ccp

How will they comply with the US government?

They can deliver the data that they do have, which will be encrypted. Though I doubt they were ever recording calls anyway.

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How would the US government be able to see the messages? They need to monitor for young people leaking data from the Pentagon. /s

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It’s interesting that the threat model also includes participants. They take into account that when a user leaves, it should be impossible for them to continue listening.

screams in Matrix

But not for text?

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nah, selling messages is way easier

If you believe anything you write or say on discord is private. Or would ever even be encrypted, I want whatever you’re smoking please.

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Yeah, Discord is not a privacy preserving service in the slightest. Honestly I’m only using it because of the network effect at this point.

That and it has full functionality in the browser. No bullshit “download the app”.

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False, this is a lie.

Discord is anti-libre software. We do not control it.

It bans us from proving its claims. It bans us from fixing its lies.

It fails to include a libre software license text file, like AGPL. Discord is malware, anti-libre.

Interesting. I was able to access the linked whitepaper and repositories without trouble and the 3rd party stuff too. Do you have local config preventing you from downloading the source code to review?

While I can respect your distaste for non-libre software, you’ll need to back up the malware claim. There are real security concerns out there in common non-libre; labeling things that are not libre as malware solely because they are not libre muddies the waters and makes your message much less palatable.

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Where’s the rest of Discord’s source code?

While it bans us from proving its claims and more, i’ll never let it infect my devices.

The claim is that audio and video are E2EE. I’m not sure how you’re unable to disprove that using the linked code, audit report, and COTS debugging tools. Can you expand on that? I see a lot of FUD without anything more than “they’re not libre” which, again, doesn’t do a great job of selling your point.

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Just reverse engineer me bro

And every update, every other app, all their updates too, across every device… 🚩

Should we just waste our whole lives nothing but knee deep in disassembled binaries?

How stupid and gullable does openly hostile Discord think we are?

Couldn’t be me still coping and shilling trash like this.

In another post you’re actively looking at purchasing GPS systems. The satellites you’re sending info to are not available to dissect and I highly doubt the firmware of the devices you’re looking at is publicly available much less libre. Your trolling is not internally consistent so it’s clear you don’t have any clue what you’re on about. Good luck with that.

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I don’t think you need to send info for a GPS client to work. You are just a receiver, no data sent.

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This conflates software with service.

Signal’s offical servers, when we don’t own them, and we don’t run them, we can’t see inside them too.

Signal is an end-to-end encrypted libre app, so we don’t need to.

here’s half the source missing

just reverse me bro

that’s not your server

Always the same talking points. Some people never learn.

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what the hell are you doing that you keep being banned from discord?

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It bans us from modifying its source code, sharing its exact and modified copies, using it for any purpose, etc.

We do not control it, anti-libre software.

Which software license do you think Discord is distributed under?

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I’ve been using a modified client for about 2 and a half years now without being banned.

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Where’s our legal right to modify and share its source code forever? We don’t control it.

Why put the effort into such a hostile service?

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Replied to the wrong comment?

Responding broadly to the thread of folks talking about userScripts & add-ons. This effort would be better put to getting folks to a different protocol where client modification & alternate clients are the norm.

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bro, just use firefox or Librewolf or something.

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