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How behind?

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I stopped using it after I was having many crashing issues (it was from upstream, but at the time upstream was already updated and it took weeks for them to release an update). Since Mull is just Firefox with a few settings changed I decided to use regular firefox, but it seems that on Android if you are really rad about privacy you should be using Vanadium (which unfortunately is Chromium based)

It is a really good browser just make sure you install ublock origin. The only big privacy issue is the screen resolution but that’s really hard to defend against.

I’ve started using Fulguris lately, just random tryout. Its actually decent and has a built in content blocker where you can add lists with the big three main ones already being there. I’m not 100% sure how barebones privacy is on it, but it is open source and from what Exodus says there’s no trackers (unless you opt into Google Crash Reporting which is off by default). It does have some extra permissions you might not need, so if you want a near-permissionless browser, it might not bwe the one for you.

What’s the browseraudit.com score of using it?

361 passed, 30 warnings, 40 skipped in my device and network.

You also might want to try running the eff fingerprinting test. It isn’t always a good metric but it does give you a decent idea of how well your browser protects your privacy.

I used FOSS Browser, now im into Tor Browser

Mull is better as extensions and has a better UI (in my option)

I use Privacy Browser

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Fingerprints are useless for tracking if they change constantly

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Well its a great browser so…

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Dude needs medical help

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I like it. Pretty damn good for privacy, based on Gecko, supports desktop extensions, and developed by the Divested Computing Group (the same one that created and maintains DivestOS).

It would be perfect except that the fingerprint protection includes forcing the screen refresh rate to the lowest common denominator. Scrolling is unbearable.

They need to report whatever number they want while always using the highest rate instead.

It should set your screen to 60 Hz

And that is exactly why I find it unusable. I have a 120 Hz phone slowed down to a hideous 60 Hz. This is why use Firefox instead of mull.

To each there own I guess

it’s worth noting that this is the intended behaviour for privacy.resistFingerprinting. this is not exclusive to Mull.

Does Firefox standard fingerprint resistance include the refresh rate? Because I use Firefox over mull on Android because of the drastic difference when scrolling.

yes, if you enable resist fingerprinting on any Firefox build it will cap refresh rate to 60hz. Mull is not doing anything special, it’s just changing about:config options by default.

you can disable resist fingerprinting in mull and regain standard refresh rate (although you lose fingerprinting protection) just as you can enable resistFingerprinting in Firefox beta or nightly and see refresh rate cap at 60.

Ok, I’ve now had time to check this out. Android Firefox is set to strict Enhanced Tracking Protection which says offers fingerprint protection. If that is capping my refresh rate, then I can’t see it. Scrolling is smooth.

In contrast, Mull is distractingly flashy when scrolling. There is absolutely something different going on here.

Ok, that actually sounds encouraging to me. Honestly, on Android Firefox I don’t see the option for resist fingerprinting. I am using Strict Enhanced Tracking protection but that isn’t affecting refresh. What am I missing?

you need to use Firefox beta, nightly, mull, or Fennec F-Droid to access about:config and from there you can search for and enable resistFingerprinting. it’s not an option in the settings.

I know it’s intended, but I find it unusable. Report what you want, but disconnect from the actual refresh rate. Best of both worlds.

I wholly agree with you there, I’m just saying it’s the same behavior on all browsers built on Firefox. true for desktop as well

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I use it as a daily driver, but sometimes it’s do slow I want to use chromium (cromite) again. I have a website open, I turn off the screen and immediately turn it back on, and the page takes several seconds to load again. And sometimes, it doesn’t even load at all and it’s just grey. Same thing happens when I switch to another app from Mull. It’s annoying, but the extensions and privacy are still worth it.

Check your ram usage. Cromite is chromium mobile so it doesn’t support extensions and is to close to google for comfort

I posted a similar issue. Apparently its Firefox related and all FF browses will have this issue for you. Cromium works as its crome based, not ff.

Kinda sounds like it doesn’t like whatever your phine is doing to optimize background battery usage

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My combo is Mull and Mulch.

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I honestly had no idea Mulch was from Divest, it just works better for me than Cromite. Thanks for the info.

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Absolutely. Cromite needs a bit of tweaking to work for me, and Mulch needs some tweaking to be more private.

No such thing as the perfect browser.

It’s fantastic. Can’t recommend it enough. The best part for me is that it’s on Fdroid

https://divested.dev/pages/donate

Don’t forget to donate to mull!

I use Mull as my daily driver. It works well. It tends to break some sites, so I keep Fennec as a backup.

Honestly my experience is that if a site is broken it probably isn’t work using. That being said I can’t remember the last time something broke. I mostly do research and reading so maybe it is just my use case

Same, minus the Fennec as a backup thing.

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