Github dislikes email “aliases” so much that they will shadow ban your otherwise normal activities for months, and once flagged, support will request not only a “valid” email domain but also that you remove the “alias” email from the account completely.
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Mines ok. But then I use my own domain.
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GitHub is owned by Microsoft and Microsoft also hates email aliases. May I recommend Port87. Microsoft and GitHub both accept the tagged addresses you use with Port87.
Looking at this Web page I end up on a wait list… Is there more somewhere?
I’ll send you an invite right now. The waitlist is temporary, but necessary right now. I need to know metrics for autoscaling capacity.
Thanks that’s very nice of you! Let me know if I have to DM you my email or something else! I see that you’re behind that project, nice to have you there
If you were on the waitlist, I’ve sent you an invite. :)
Thanks, I wasn’t because I weren’t sure on the best way to go, but I just joined now. Feel free to approve when you have time! Cheers
You should have an invite now. :)
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I use simplelogin on github. Works fine
fuck github. use a different git site, there are plenty!
Github is unfortunately the premier platform for collaborating with others to build FOSS. Until alternative forges support federation, any other forge is usually a dead end.
The pull request model Microsoft GitHub force on users ends up being a colossal waste of everyone’s time & it’s the only model offered. It’s also a social media platform which encourages star hacking, READMEs that are actually RENDERMEs, focusing too much on making one’s graph green, etc. that are bad for project quality & mental health IMO. This doesn’t sound like a “premier” platform but the result of lock-in & network effect. The way to break is to go host elsewhere… & since Git is a distributed version control system, this should be encouraged.
@toastal @Atemu
Why use #github when you can use @Codeberg ?
Because the projects I want to contribute to are on Github, not some other forge. Also, I don’t want to create accounts on dozens of forges; each with their own settings and whatever; I also don’t want to have to put contributors to my projects through that, so if I want external contributors, Github is pretty much my only choice.
I don’t like it but until federation between forges is a thing, Github it is.
@Atemu
Same reasons used by #iphone, #mac, #microsoft, #facebook, #twitter, #reddit, etc. users.
But here we are, people using #pinephone, #linux, #mastodon, #lemmy, etc.
😛
Yeah, they’re gatekeepers. We know. Even EU regulators have noticed and are finally making baby steps on cracking down on them.
Though just as with Twitter and Reddit, we need a resilient decentral OSS alternative for this to work. That’s in the works as we speak but it’s not here yet. It’s like trying to give up Reddit 3 years a go; there was no viable alternative.
@arbocenc @Atemu it’s not because it’s the most used thing that it is good and you should use it too, exactly!
Corporation are not your friends, remember that
Or SourceHut, or self-host cgit or Forgejo. Hell, why run Git when Darcs & Pijul are awesome.
Huh, federated Git sounds nice.
Federated Git has been a thing ever since git was conceived:
They mean like I want to be able to open an issue on your instance using an account on my instance. Forjero is working in this
The mailing list or maintainer email can accept your issues. You don’t have to have a code forge.
Theres a reason people do.
Sure. I love being able to browse code without checking out your bloated monorepo, but it isn’t a requirement.
‘premier’
GitHub has 28 million public repos
Gitlab is has less than an order of magnitude as many Under a million in 2020, and nearly 80% without FOSS license.
Is it everyone’s favorite, or best, or most feature rich. Nah. Is it where the FOSS projects are. Yes.
Is this why Freedesktop, GNOME, KDE, Haskell, & others self-host their GitLab community editions? These must not be the real FOSS projects.
Sure, self-hosting is a great option for very large projects, but a random python library to help with an analytics workflow isn’t going to self-host. Those projects, along with 27,999,990 others have chosen GitHub, often times explicitly to reduce the barrier to contribution.
Also, all of those examples are built on thousands of other FOSS projects, 99% of which aren’t self-hosting. This is the same as arguing only Amazon is a bookseller and ignoring the thousands of independent book publishers creating the books Amazon is selling.
This isn’t to say every project should self-host, but that they could self-host. And if you don’t want to self-host, you can join groups like Notabug, or a server hosted by a foundation like Codeberg, or the privately-held SourceHut, or even the open-core GitLab with its free tier (tho publicly-traded, most of the source is open & one can run the community edition if they wish). To assume if not self-hosted GitLab CE, then one must use a closed-source, US-based, publicly-traded, megacorporate, social media + code forge platform that’s trying to monopolize the developer tooling space is a false dichotomy.
Discord locks my account everytime I join a server
Are you using 2FA ? With some services (Not Discord but others) I found out that when 2FA is enabled I will not have to suffer endless amount of CAPTCHAs and what not.
Likely that they don’t “trust” your email provider, but there’s a lot of strange A/B testing going on behind the scenes of that data harvester.
Setting up a dedicated spare gmail or outlook account solves that issue.
Registering a “cell number” helps too, but it’s hard finding a service that offers “free texting numbers” that isn’t set up in a way that they can see that it’s just one of those services. Wish I remembered what finally worked for me.
Lastly, if you’re using a modified Discord app or desktop install, be sparing with the non-standard features. That can flag you sometimes too.
For most servers though, I find it easiest to just access them in browser as a not signed in guest.
I think Google Voice still gives out a free phone number as long as you tie it to your actual phone number. I used it for Craigslist all the time years ago to avoid giving out my actual number
A lot of services like PayPal will block known Google Voice numbers. Screw all these service for even asking. I can do 2FA without a phone so you must be trying to collect more data than you should.
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I made a sandwich.
I beat a human at chess
I had the same issue with my Anonaddy alias, I just made an alias using my domain name and works fine now. It’s unfortunate that so many project are on shithub.
Yeah all the email addresses on my domain name are just aliases. Dont tell github
Fuck Microsoft for buying GitHub. As expected they have made good into garbage.
GitHub was proprietary, venture-capital, Ruby sludge before Microsoft. They’d either way aim to be bought or be the next Microsoft.
Same experience here
I gave them an generic “alias” through a more mainstream service than silomails, we’ll see if that pacifies them.
What do you mean by email aliases?
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Basically another email address that forwards everything to your main email.
How would they even detect that? Blacklist common alias providers?
I dont think so. I get my self hosted aliases banned. They must read the dkim/spf/dmarc or other types of headers against a base of mainstream email providers
Wouldn’t that ban self hosted email period?
Depends on what header they read and how
I guess so
So a redirect instead of alias? E-mail alias is the address+alias@… thing.
Thats an extension
Yeah let’s say you got joe@protonmail.com, on simplelogin you can make a joe123@aleeas.com and now sign up for services using aleeas with those emails being forwarded to your protonmail
Here’s an illustration
https://simplelogin.io/images/hero.svg
https://simplelogin.io/
What was this feature called again… basically linking, right?
It’s called an email alias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_alias
I thought that was a gmail specific thing.
It is, an email alias is a redirect. They’ve just been calling plus codes aliases and didn’t know they were mixed up.
Exactly it’s a completely false distinction. All email addresses are an “alias”.
Not true, there is a distinction between your reply address and any secondary addresses you have configured on the mailbox. Still, as far as I know that’s not something they should be able to see from outside your email server. You are setting up aliases on your own server right, not using some third party as an intermediary? Using a third party intermediary would possibly be something they can see from the delivery routing.
It’s most likely that this is just them shitting on you for using an “untrusted” provider. Most big sites and email providers are really getting stingy lately with who they’ll accept email from and what is accepted as a valid email domain. There’s also a big push for properly configured SPF and DKIM records that aren’t set to allow spoofing sender domain. It’s combining to cause a lot of issues for self hosters lately, and also for companies that have vendors who insist on sending email from the vendor’s servers but appearing as from the company itself.