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There is a reason you should never touch anything meta.
Don’t worry, chat control is coming to the EU soon and then the fun really starts.
except that it’s not.
Thanks for providing a source.
I am just reading this post now, I’m pleasantly surprised.
I am however also sure that chat control will be proposed in some form again, as truly private communications for the masses are a serious threat to oppressors.
And the grass is green. You can’t use this Zuckercrap, known for years for some Flanders feudal Victorian ethics censors and then complain about it.
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I don’t have any friends so this kind of issue rarely impact me 🤣
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Cool. Let me file you’re opinion under “things I don’t give a shit about”.
Hmmm maybe this is why I don’t have friends 🤔🤣
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Woah look at this doosh trying to shit on someone making a self deprecating joke. Must be nice to live such an empty and unfulfilling life.
Hey I got an idea! You could just not be a massive dickhead? Maybe try it out for a day! See how it feels?
Douche*
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Bored 😑
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This doesn’t prove much. I don’t trust Facebook nor Meta, but it could be a problem with that file, the formatting, encoding… that fails on WhatsApp. We need more proof.
Tried sending the video and got the same result (have WhatsApp for work) very interesting and exactly why I’m trying to get my friends on Matrix
So fb doesn’t care about my privacy like they promise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hio88ZmFUWQ
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=hio88ZmFUWQ
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Thought it was encrypted end to end. Hmm…
end to end encrypted between Facebook and you.
Which means pretty much nothing without also considering who has the encryption keys and who controls the ends.
It is, afawk
E2E do not prevent client side blocking. Whatsapp app can get image that it needs to block from a remote, then check the recieved message against the image it needs to block; then block the image when it needs to.
Obviously not trying to justify their behavior, but it is important to know that E2EE is not a elixir for privacy and security.
Right, the mantra needs to be end-to-end encryption, plus open source. For full user agency.
If it’s closed source the agent doesn’t have to operate on your behalf.
I thought it was ese (end-server-end) encrypted, not e2e?
Whatsapp uses the signal protocol, hence end-to-end. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp#Technical
It kind of depends on your definition of “end-to-end”. Normally, what people mean is from one communication partner (i.e. human) to the other. If you use a software to do the encrypting and decrypting, it should be open-source and verifiable. The WhatsApp client is not that. It is an attack vector and it takes in your message in unencrypted form.
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I agree that lots of software calls itself e2ee, despite the ends being untrustworthy and one can definitely argue that therefore the word itself should not imply trustworthy.
But well, in this particular context, folks were using the ‘trustworthy’ definition…
Oh that’s cool! That doesn’t really stop them from snooping as you type the message, though. I know fb does (or used to), so why not their chat app. Also, if all they’re doing with the video censoring is checking the hashes, then they’re not snooping (though they still shouldn’t censor chats).
hashing is still a form of snooping tbh. especially when paired with other metadata
but ofc its not as direct
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/watch?v=_Q-jWYYOP14
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.