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Oh, that is 6 user with 3 terabyte of storage. average to 50$ per user per year. In where I live, that is like 2 meals outside per year, and cheaper than office 365 personal.

To me this is pretty good value, but I understand people are different. However, I cannot get them yet, as proton drive still don’t have a linux client (or any client for that matter)…


I just checked the price, it seems like unlimited (with storage, vpn, pass etc) only cost $120 for the first year. And it is $156 for normal price.

And if you only need mail, that only cost around $50 for the first year.

Unless your $ doesn’t mean U.S. dollar?


For example, it is pretty important to realize the post you are reading is from c/theonion, and the most effective way is to see the community picture on top of the post.

Also I find in general more image makes the UI more vibrant and inviting for me.


Unfortunately thunder dont show profile pics or community pictures, which has lead to people eating the onion couple times.


E2E do not prevent client side blocking. Whatsapp app can get image that it needs to block from a remote, then check the recieved message against the image it needs to block; then block the image when it needs to.

Obviously not trying to justify their behavior, but it is important to know that E2EE is not a elixir for privacy and security.



Indeed. Here is the section https://grapheneos.org/faq#anti-theft

TLDR: although it can be implemented to use a local authentication method, but that would easily cause bricking. Plus the limited thief deterrence potential it provides (Probably given the currently limited user base of graphene) hence it is low priority.


Does Graphene OS have FRP when no google account was added?
Just a curiosity. Theoretically FRP (factory reset protection) can use the current login password as a way of authentication after reset. But everything on the web states that you will need a Google account to take advantage of he feature.
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They have a websocket built in. So they dont really need FCM even on phone with GPlay.

The websocket is fairly energy efficient, and much more reliable than FCM, in my experience.


Netguard has network filtering as a paid feature. It has a pretty steep learning curve, but very full featured.


I still use an outlook email. Since most email (which is unencrypted during transmission) pass through microsoft server anyway; unless you are emailing another protonmail account, but I have yet to see another one of my contact using protonmail.

Also protonmail’s UX is honestly pretty bad, since I have a work email not from proton. So I will need two email client on my phone, unless I selfhost a bridge on a server that I can connect to from everywhere.




It is okay for privacy, especially if you dont have google app installed, but it is not security and privacy focused.

If you have google app installed I imagine it is probably as private as stock os on a pixel, but less secure. Graphene/calyx will definitely have better security and privacy than lineage with or without gapps.

But I understand there is other tradeoffs besides just security and privacy, like minimizng ewaste, cost, availability, etc.


This is for security concerns, because all the firmware and driver are maintained by first party, so once the first party stopped maintaining firmware, there is no way for graphene to make the device as secure as a phone that is still in its support period.

At that point, you can try to switch to lineage to increase the life of your device.

That being said, graphene do offer extended support for some devices like pixel 4(XL) is still supported right now, but it made it very clear that it is “extended support”, and it exist only to help user transition to their next device.


Graphene do not support fairphone, but you can use calyxos, which supports fairphone (with verified boot?), and it is more up to date.

In general, I think calyx is probably more up-to-date and secure, with vanilla android experience. /e/ has its own unique athetics, and a SSO cloud service powered by nextcloud (last time I checked, nextcloud dont have good E2EE support, so I personally avoid putting my stuff on a nextcloud server hosted by others. But it is your choice)



I see similar complains in their issues. That unfortunately sounds like a deal breaker…


Is there any advantage of using this instead of molly?


AFAIK, they have a FOSS variant

To support a 100% free and auditable app, Molly comes in two flavors: one with proprietary blobs like Signal and one without. They are called Molly and Molly-FOSS, respectively. You can install the flavor of your choice at any time, and it will replace any previously installed version. The data and settings will be preserved so that you do not have to re-register.

Also the line right after your quote:

Versions

Molly, like Signal, uses Google’s proprietary code to support some features.

Molly-FOSS is the community effort to make it 100% free and open-source.



Molly v.s. Signal
I am not comfortable that signal depends proprietary google library. However, I find that Molly lags significantly behind signal (around 1 to 2 weeks, so maybe not as significant as I thought), but I am just concerned that if there is a security fix in signal, molly will not be able to react as fast. I am also quite frustrated with the general lack of communication from the signal team (for example the lack of communication regarding username). I doubt they will have the good will to help molly when there is a critical security fix. It is frustrating that signal no longer seems like the gold standard for privacy any more; unfortunately, all my friends are on there (ironic, isn't it...).
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Do you use Shizuku with ADB on boot? AFAIK graphene os don’t support root.

I doubt graphene maintainer will ever recommend to use Shizuku.


Theoretically, google camera can talk to play service, which can send telemetry through there. This is somewhat likely as play service do handle telemetry.

Another unlikely scenario is that it talks to another app’s proprietary play service library code. This means even if you don’t have play service installed as long ad there is any app that uses play service, like slack, outlook, teams, even signal; then google app can send/receive data through the internet without network premission. Although this is technically doable for google, it is highly unlikely that they will o this.


You can also use storage scope! so it only can access files it created!


But there are some site that I don’t want to purge cookies, and realistically most people don’t really click the exit button on mobile.


I kind of wish it support cookieautodelete, like in iceraven. Otherwise it is a perfect browser.


All of these are about sponsored content. AFAIK in the current model of sponsored content have to inlude some tracking as they need to keep track of how many click goea through, acvording to that they will charge their client.

I kind of wish there would be non-tracking based ads, like burned in mid-roll ads on youtube: Just give a shout out and collect money. But it is pertty hard to convince others to switch to that model without solid data.

Finally, everything they mentioned are sponsored content and pocket, both can be turned off with one click. I call that a win in the distopian modern internet. And obviously there are more privacy oriented fork that strips these tracking content by default.


GrapheneOS users, do you use google camera or secure camera.
Secure camera is really good. However I find google camera works better in low light with fast moving object, like in door photo of moving pet etc. For my use case, I have to install GCAM on my main profile, since my wife like to use it; and I don't want to go through the hassel of transferring photos between profile. But of course, I denied internet access and setup storage scope for GCAM. But that left me wondering, am I just making my life harder by using secure camera as default? Since it seems that although secure camera is pretty good, it is not as optimized as GCAM. I already have GCAM on my phone, so I cannot think of any privacy benefit by not setting it as the default. What do you think? do you use GCAM or secure camera, and why?
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Trime seems to be traditional first, trimerc is supposed to support both simplified and traditional.

However I cannot get trimerc to work recently, so a switched to Fcitx5, and it works perfectly.


i tried kiss once, it is such a good launcher, I just wish they can pin more than one line of icons on the homescreen.


it still seems to be actively developed https://github.com/NeoApplications/Neo-Launcher , just havent have a release for a year.


I use neolauncher, it is pretty good even though it is in its early days. It is also avaliable on izzyondroid.