What are people using in place of Google docs/sheets/etc? I’m looking for a simple program that syncs with the cloud so I can access my documents on my different computers or my Android phone. I run Windows 10 (don’t crucify me). I use libre office for things that can stay on one computer, but for things like school notes, budgeting spreadsheets, or certain reference sheets I’ve created for work I need to be able to access on my different devices or log in on a web browser and easily have the changes sync. I’m constantly on the go and logging into different devices between work and school and while I want to de-google I’ve just found the convenience of the google suite has kept me saving non-confidential stuff with them. With some minor searching I found Cryptpad, has anyone used that, or can anyone recommend anything else?
I don’t do anything crazy, for docs its mostly just typing and basic formatting, importing pictures into my school notes, very simple tables, etc. With Sheets I just use basic math functions to balance my bank accounts and keep my budget on track, so I don’t need anything advanced, it just needs to work and sync with the cloud. I don’t even care if I have to pay a few bucks for it if it’s worthwhile.
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There’s no shortage of alternatives for this but the best one for your particular usecase is probably syncthing. It will sync files on a folder across devices.
If you use Nextcloud, there’s either Nextcloud Office (which is actually Collabora Office) or OnlyOffice. As you already mentioned, Cryptpad is another alternative.
Collabora office on nextcloud works great for me Theres also cryptpad.fr
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Man I could never actually get it working well (and reliably) enough to use on my rpi.
What method did you use to deploy it? Did you try this one https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one
I’ve tried it both ways, the all in one seemed to do alright but I didn’t realize I needed the “login” info from that initial stage later so I 100% boned myself there lol. It never worked right again, I’m sure due to some lingering files I couldn’t find.
I’m fiddling with all my drives to dual boot anyways, maybe I’ll give it another go.
I like CryptPad by Framasoft, for big stuff.
Can you just have an obsidian vault that syncs on your cloud drive, whatever cloud service you use?
I had similar setup but I was using obsidian and pcloud. Syncing up&down was done by scripts using rclone/roundsync (android). Script part might be harder to achieve using windows
But I came here to say that I finally decided to test syncthing and it’s so much easier! And just works. Now pcloud is rather a backup and sharing than gateway
A really cool do-it-all Option to de-google / de-cloud yourself is to buy a synology NAS. They come with all the cloud stuff you want, it works really well out of the box:
That way you’re not moving from one cloud provider to another one you might or might not trust, but you host it all yourself.
Last time I checked the Synology office apps on Android didn’t work too well. Has that changed recently?
They work fine for me.
I don’t have an android. On iOS I tried their table thing, it works decently, but not nearly as nicely optimised for the use on an iPad as Apple Numbers is.
Idk when you checked, but they work pretty well now. Not quite on par with Google Docs, but the closest thing I know.
Or if you have an old machine and a enough money to by a few hard drives (which you should if you can afford a synology) throw the drives in the old machine and slap something on there. Truenas, Proxmox, unraid, etc. unraids probably the easiest but it costs money. All of them have some kind of docker/kubernetes so you can just run whatever open source version of the thing you want. Nextcloud, libreoffice, etc. you could just install some version of linux too, doesn’t need to be one of those, but those are much simpler to deploy and (most of them) are tailor made for the task
Synology can do all of this too but isn’t as expandable. Want more power to run a jellyfin server and transcode 8 4k streams at once? Plop in a gpu or better yet upgrade to an intel with quicksync for low power usage. Want 8 more hard drives? Change the case and add an hba. Want 24 more? Add another hba and a disk shelf, as long as your motherboard has enough pci lanes. It doesn’t? Upgrade it. The trade off is usability, the synology stuff is easier to use. It’s also more expensive initially, you can make a basic nas with a $50 e waste pc that an office was throwing away (though tbf you’ll probably spend a bit adding disks to it just like you would with a synology)
Depends on how much of a dork you are I guess
Yeah, Synology is fine but they’re usually overpriced and underpowered, and have limited software available. Running a normal homemade server makes much more sense, in my opinion.
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Very true, but I like my NAS to be maintenance-free, and Synology delivers on that. Their apps work out of the box and are installed with basically one click. I fiddle with tech enough at my job, I like my private tech to just work.
Even as a power-user you can do a lot, the synology nas also runs docker, so you can run whatever you’d like on it, not just the synology provided services.
Expanding the hardware is kind of a pain, even with RAM they are kind of weird and you need some approved (synology-brand) ram, or need to fiddle with some system files to make it accept any ram.
Also i’d love if they went with zfs instead of their llvm + btrfs.
I can’t recommend Synology enough! They make it as easy and painless as possible to own your data again.
I use syncthing to sync ios and linux. Nothing goes into any cloud.
People won’t like this but for ease of use just use google drive or whatever Microsoft’s cloud storage is called these days. You can password protect your libreoffice documents for protection from the crawlers.
The privacy is not about protecting your data from crawlers, it’s about protecting your data from big tech.
+1 for proton drive
I have the premium plan for and vpn and password manager benifits and use it for college work, game back ups, and saving and sharing unhinged video game clips with friends
I use libre office myself as well with proton drive so I can pull up all my .doc and .docx files on my iPhone (ik very privacy focused /s)
Also the other user mentioned obsidian I like it too. I use more like OneNote kind of notes for my college classes be it typed or hand written (with the Excalidraw plugin)
I set my obsidian save location to proton drive so I can hand write my notes in class then pull them up on my big monitor on my home computer
Sometimes obsidian will cause proton drive to freakout due to obsidians auto save feature (nothing bad it’ll just stop syncing) so I just pause proton, do my thing in obsidian with it saving but not syncing, then just resume the sync
Sometimes they’ll play nice together but other times not so idk¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The simple solution is to use another cloud, such as proton drive mentioned below.
Another more technical solution is to setup a vpn at home and use vpn + smb to share files with your phones, this one fails if your computer isn’t always online at home or if your internet provider runs CGNAT.
Your computer could be replaced with a selfhosted solution as nextcloud running on separate hardware, but now we’re firmly in selfhosting land.
The VPN home could be replaced with a VPS that both your home network and mobile devices connect to as a CGNAT workaround.
The KISS (Keep it simple, stupid) principle says that getting another cloud storage is the way to go. If you truly wanna own your cloud then a trip to selfhost land it is.
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OnlyOffice is fantastic. I selfhost with Nextcloud.
Seconded: CryptPad and Obsidian.