So I had researched it a while ago and don’t recall having found anything effective and non-suspicious to protect from public camera mass survaillence in cities and the like. Is there anything that is a good option for that yet, and if so, could you point me toward it?

You need to own a few copies of face recog software, and practice with face restructuring latex makeup which gives you a new realistic face with a new bone structure.

Change walking gate. Get shoes with small platforms to change height, learn to walk naturally on those.

Change mannerisms.

It’s doable, but a major pain to pull it off.

Like imagine quickly applying the latex makeup, walking in front of your own identical face recognition camera at home, take everything off, rest, repeat, 10 times a day, 300 days a year, for 10 years. Until it is second nature. Now you can rely on this to do serious work.

You have to create a new person, basically. Assuming you practiced well and tested everything against real software, you can now be a different person for some hours in a reliable way. Once your secondary identity is exposed you’ll need a new tertiary identity. Never do anythiny fishy as your base identity.

The real solution is political, like everyone else has said. Because you won’t be able to fool the system casually without a massive effort and practice, practice, practice on your own property first, before you rely on this for real work in the wild.

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Horse mask should work

Artillery strikes on the data centers

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There is no effective technical solution for political problems. If you find one, it will soon be outlawed or rendered ineffective (eg if you wear mask and sunglasses, prepare to be harrssed by law enforcement). Lobbying to stop unconstrained surveillance is the only option.

If there is no other option than lobbying then there is no real option. The public has rarely ever effectively lobbied for their interests.

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mask with dark sunglasses or a ski mask with dark sunglasses

IR blocking sunglasses are the simplest and most practical solution.

Facial recognition systems compare the distance ratios between your eyes and nose primarily. Hiding your eyes is very effective towards fucking that up. A mask alone is typically not enough.

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Sunglasses alone are not enough either. Modern face recognition tech is way better than just distance ratios

May I suggest revolution?

Are there any AES countries without mass surveillance though? Honest quesion.

Revolution doesn’t have to recreate the currently existing systems in other parts of the world. Every social order was brand new at some point.

Came here to suggest that. We need to gather sentiment

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Mask, sunglasses (and glasses that block IR), slight deviations in movement patterns, and GETTING OUT OF THE CITY.

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Covid masks can be effective, and it’s not as suspicious as asymmetrical makeup or a reflective hoodie. But no, there’s no good way to avoid being photographed in public.

I read somewhere they they can identify you typically with about 35% of your face.

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Mask and sunglasses? Then put random things in your shoe everyday to change your gait?

Yeah, a high-res image giving the position of ears, eyes, and nose is damning.

ears and eyes alone give you a shocking amount of identifyability. We’re getting real fucking close to the CSI levels of facial identification.

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glasses and face masks it is then

A hammer?

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Lemon juice? /s

Thanks for sharing, what an amazing read^^

IR LEDs around your hat or glasses but I believe some cameras can filter out IR.

Yeah, no dice, the better sensors these days don’t have any problem with that. Check out Project Farms recent doorbell camera review. He actually walks up to the doorbell camera with a full on flashlight in the pitch black of night and they still have no problem.

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Don’t mind me, just rocking my battery-powered hat

It’s to power the AI obviously 😂

Don’t forget that when you walk the length of your bones can be measured which can be used to identify you.

Yea, but there is a database of peoples faces matched to their names. There is not a database of their bone lengths to the names. That measurement would be done after you were already under suspicion.

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I guess we can all join The Ministry of Silly Walks.

Walk on the front of your foot, the process require you to intentionally concentrate on your gait which causes it to change

Not that you can do it all of the time, but it is a way to defeat gait fingerprinting.

Just as normal sunglasse don’t fool facial recognition systems, modern gait recognition systems can’t be defeated by “just altering how you walk”. You can read more about it on The Hitchhikers Guide to Online Anonymity. There is this research paper.

They link a specific device which can fool some systems, but a bit easier (although more inefficient) is just wearing very loose clothes that cover the movement of your muscles.

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Walk without rhythm.

Is that part of gait measurement or separate from it?

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Mask or neck gator, dark shades, toboggan hat or head scarf/wrap that covers your ears. Ears are just about as identifiable as fingerprints.

Long hair also.

For surveillance cams:

Cover them up and destroy them with drones.

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