I am currently using Librewolf.

But Zen & floorp browser looks beautiful.

What do you suggest?

I personally like the looks of Zen.

I would also appreciate any tips to make Zen more secure than it already is.

Edit: consider this too

Negative post about zen: https://www.reddit.com/r/LibreWolf/comments/1ezumu7/comment/ljnjx2b/

Positive post about zen: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1fz7j9s/comment/lqzklza/

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Dude gleebal browser is so much better man wtf ):<

Consider if a theme could accomplish what you want: It seems like they all use firefox under the hood, and if all you want is appearance, you shouldn’t need to change your entire browser. Keeping in mind that a smaller fingerprinting pool is less anonymous, if you care about that.

I haven’t actually used any other than librewolf though, so if switching provides any features you care about, go for it.

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I generally tend to stay with browsers I know. It’s tedious enough hardening Firefox and getting everything down to a note. I do have Librefox onboard but I rarely use it.

What do you to harden Firefox?

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I’ve used a few tutorials online, and was looking through my bookmarks. This one is pretty good:

https://brainfucksec.github.io/firefox-hardening-guide

I also run Enhanced Tracking Protection in the ‘Privacy and Security’ settings in firefox at Custom with all options ticked except:

  • Allow Firefox to automatically apply exceptions required to avoid major website breakage.
  • Also apply exceptions automatically that are only required to fix minor issues and make convenience features available.

Whatever breaks, breaks.

Additionally, ‘DNS over HTTPS’ set at Max Protection.

Again, whatever breaks breaks and I move on to another site.

Half my stuff breaks with the protection I use. The privacy/security struggle is real.

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The privacy/security struggle is real.

Solidarity my brother. If I can’t bend a website to my will, screw it. The info is more than likely duplicated across the internet anyways.

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I come from Vivaldi, and Zen was the only customizable powerhouse that equaled the former. Next to Zen I also use LibreWolf, and Waterfox on Android.


✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

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I think that it’s your browser, your choice.

I use Firefox, and don’t worry about a thing. :-) Not even what you like for a browser.

Any opinions on Firedragon (Floorp’s fork, default in Garuda linux)

It’s looks alright only problem might be it’s a very small project so updates might be off idk they mostly took librewolf privacy /security and floorp customization and smashed it into one web browser

I have used Zen a lot since the early days and it has been very good. Suits my needs perfectly. However, recently I started testing out Orion and it has also been very nice. It has very good privacy and is WebKit if you’re into that. I’m just happy with anything not Blink.

Isn’t Blink the Google component?

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No, Blink is the render engine of Chromium, same as Gecko in Firefox. Blink is one of the forks of KHTML, made by KDE, same as WebKit. It is used by Google use it in the Chrome browser and also EDGE, Opera, Brave, Vivaldi and other, forks of Blink are Qt browsers, eg. Otter browser or Falcon. Goanna is an fork from Gecko, used by eg. Pale Moon, Basilisk and K-Melon. But these forks only making sense for older devices and OS with few sys specs, due to limited functionality and compatibilities with certain web contents. Qt engines because of this more used in auxiliar app, eg. mail clients.

There are only this three engines + the 2 forks, which can be used by the current browsers, apart of some basic engines used by text only browsers, like eg Lynx or Links

Correct. I prefer to avoid the browsers that use their browser engine.

Wow zen has really matured since I first tested it out. I have a really nice adwaita setup on base firefox but it’s tempting me to switch over.

To consider: sticking with the main browsers helps you resist fingerprinting

floorp

You trying to coax me from librewolfs maturity for new browsers?

Here I am thinking what’s a floorp and mixing it up with the plumbus.

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When I read “floorp” my mind immediately went to a mopping robot vacuum 🤣

Zen video playback was awful for me, but I like almost everything else about it.

I use Vivaldi and Zen as second. I need the sync function and I don’t want an Mozilla account, nor an third party solution. Vivaldo offers full sync ee2e no knowledge in the own server in Iceland.

Vivaldi isn’t open source. Not sure I’d trust that from a privacy perspective.

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You can, part of the script corresponding to its UI is proprietary, but UI code is written in plain, accessible code for those who read HTML, CSS and JS and even moddeable by the user, but can’t be forked legally by Chrome or EDGE (🖕) nor by other browsers. It`s something like open proprietary freeware. There are no logs, tracking or any other crap. nor third party investors. Sync ee2e no-knowledge. The rest is OpenSource with several different licenses, specificated in the source package. As all other browser, collecting anonym statistical data (country for lenguage settings, OS, needed tecnical data)

https://vivaldi.com/source/

I believe the term you’re looking for might be “source-available”

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Yes, something like this, despite not fully OpenSource, it’s pretty trustworth because of this, there is nothing shady or hidden in Vivaldi.

If you can’t compile it yourself, it doesn’t count.

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You are free to compile it for yourself if you are masochist enough to compile a browser from source, only you can’t do it legally distributing it under an other brand than Vivaldi. That is the only limit.

I promise it won’t work with the files they provide.

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