You must log in or register to comment.
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don’t promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
- 0 users online
- 124 users / day
- 1.05K users / week
- 1.3K users / month
- 4.58K users / 6 months
- 1 subscriber
- 3.36K Posts
- 85.4K Comments
- Modlog
Kagi isn’t privacy focused but it doesn’t use your data for ads either. The main benefit is good search quality and more control over the search results.
4get.ca has been doing well for me. You have to answer easy (and cute!) captchas periodically for bot prevention, buts it’s been stable, and results are at least as good as other options so far as I’m concerned.
ALL YOUR SEARCHES are tied to your email, forever. all your queries safely stored, waiting for someone to hack them or them to abuse that data somehow.
now reread your question.
This is inaccurate. The reality is that the company promises that searches aren’t saved and there is no search history associated with your account.
The problem is that we have no way to verify that is actually true. It requires trust.
I use Kagi. I pay $5/month for 300 searches. I am acutely aware of the fact that my searches might not be completely private.
They still offer the most accurate search results of any any search engine since ~2008 Google.
Been using searx for a while it’s awesome. When I finally set up my own home server I will self host it.
NO. use searxng (https://searx.be/ and https://priv.au/ )
I use the $5 plan. Basically for any time I’m searching for something I already know where to look (weather, sports scores, particular website) I use ddg or brave (or bookmarks). When I’m looking for more nuanced things like programming questions, recipes, reviews, etc. I use Kagi. Works pretty well with bangs in Firefox.
To answer your question: I hate ads so it’s worth it to me to have no sponsored crap in searches where there is something to sell
Since all your searches could be correlated to your account (subscription service) by Kagi, I consider that a major deal-breaker when discussing its privacy.
It is definitely miles ahead in finding genuine content, but paying 10 usd for unlimited or 5 usd for 300 searches is too much for my wallet. I’m hoping if they get enough users then maybe they can introduce another price lowering attempt or pray that I can opt into a family plan with friends.
Yes!
I’m happy with SearXNG. At the time I had issues with each search engine, and this meta search engine is great for me.
You can run one locally on your device, or connect it to a domain like I did, so I use it everywhere: seek[.]agurav[.]xyz You’re welcome to try mine, or use it daily. it’ll blend my own activity a bit so it’s good for me. For u, you’ll have to trust my word that I don’t sell your data or something. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ultimately, give it a try, and then host your own or use a public instance that you trust.
Okay.
I’ve been trying to get into Searx for about a month now, but I just cannot make it work the way I want it to.
The auto-detect is constantly in the wrong country, sometimes throwing me to a random one if I search for a product e.g.
If I lock it to one country it works better, but then it excludes so much potentially useful data.
Any advice on how to set it up a bit to make it work better?
I believe the auto-detect is based on a geo-ip database. If you are connecting from a VPN or datacenter IP then I imagine you might have unexpected results.
I am not on a VPN and experience it with my phone, iPad and desktop sadly.
I’ve been using it for more than a year and it’s worth every cent. It’s not perfect, obviously, but it’s already so good. Useful results (no SEO crap) no ads, no tracking, great filtering tools (those alone, to me at least, are already worth paying for) and real cool features. If you have not done so already, get their 100 search trial account and you will see how you like it. I did that and I switched to a paid sub less than 3 days later.
When my first year ended I thought to myself, well, I could try to save me some money here and did not renew kinda yeah, Kagi’s cool and all but why pay when there are free options? I ran back to Kagi in the same month I decided to not renew ;)
I if I had to use a free search, it probably would be Brave Search, FYI
Kagi is doing business with Yandex, something that might interest you: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo
And brave, the one run by this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
I used to but people behind are bastards so I don’t give money to them anymore.
It made me think of how I use search engines and most of the time I go on the same websites so I try to avoid search engines.
I use Mojeek with their focus feature (it is like lenses of Kagi). If I really need a search engine I use Mojeek with no focus, but most of the time the results are not good enough so I give them a feedback and go back on Duckduckgo.
Why are they bastards ? I am using Orion for some of my web browsing which is a Kagi product.
They keep expanding their partnership with Yandex, which is a company tightly integrated with Kremlin
On the Orion forums their staff consistently bullies people around
Curious abt this too
Kinda long to read : https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
TLDR:
Probably I have forgot some stuff, but this is the gist of it for me.
The CEO has shitty stances on certain things but everything is basically a frontend to Google/Bing/Brave which are all also shitty so the entire search engine market is fucked from an ethical perspective
Also, from the same source - a dismissive attitude to privacy (which is kind of a big deal if all your searches are tied to a single account, usually paid by a KYC method).
Thx for sharing. I do (happily) use Kagi as already stated in my other comment but I’m always willing to be more informed.
Will take a read thx !
I don’t understand the business model of other search engines, but I see how Kagi can work long-term and that’s why I’m still a customer.
Once you’re a search engine that works for your users, you can do stuff like warning labels for websites that have excessive tracking and just let users filter out any domains from their results.
You can always give the trial a go. In my experience (and at the time I tested multiple search engines), Kagi served the most relevant results. I would 100% get a subscription if I could afford it (which I unfortunately can’t atm).