Going Dark: The war on encryption is on the rise. Through a shady collaboration between the US and the EU.
web.archive.orgUnder the slogan ‘Think of the children’, the European Commission tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens. When the scandal was revealed, it turned out that American tech companies and security services had been involved in the bill, generally known as ‘Chat Control’ – and that the whole thing had been directed by completely different interests. Now comes the next attempt. New battering rams have been brought out with the ‘Going Dark’ initiative. But the ambition is the same: to install state spyware on every European cell phone and computers.
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In the EU it’s only a recurrent proposal by right wing collectives, in the US it’s reality since time, there the privacy rights are inexistent. Privacy laws in the EU are not perfect, but light years away compared to the ones of the US. In the EU surveillance of privacy data only possible by the police in crime investigations against a person with an court order, by law. Nothing to do with the mass surveillance by private companies for commercial reasons like in the US.
One huge mistake that EU made was to rely on US equipment and software firms to build out infrastructure. I think there’s a bit of a recognition of that now with the push for using open alternatives like nextcloud, but that really should’ve been the approach from the start.
Yes, in part. This is the reason because I prefer to use EU products in the ambit of privacy. Even so, the EU has pretty well forced large corporations to greatly restrict their surveillance practices, with respect to their services in the US. A good example is M$, with only 1 tracking cookie on its page in Germany, vs more than 100 trackers in M$ US
Yeah, EU definitely does a far better job than US in this regard.
Yes, but still a lot of things to do.
Indeed, hopefully more open tech takes root going forward. :)
Agree, but also soft and infrastructure in general. The EU has first-class products and only few of these are known. The only EU browser is Vivaldi (Norway/island), the other one, UR (French browser) is dead since years. Instead of this infamous Imgur spyware (which all people use), using for image and file sharing/hosting, the way better vgy.me (GB) FileCoffee (the best) NL, other companies like KDE (Germany), Proton (Suiss), Tuta (Germany), MetaGer search (Germany), etc… All of these are way more private than most US alternatives.
very much agree
😂 two convicts trying to protect from crime & other criminals
I didn’t see what’s the point into wanting to catch pedophiles if the elite are already a bunch of them.
I bet it’s just an excuse for something else like avoiding losing the power.
BTW what happened to lolita express logs?
Let me guess… nothing…
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Nobody in the pro-surveillance camp wants to actually catch pedophiles, that is just one of those “nobody can argue against it” excuses they have been using for ages.
Are you saying you DON’T want to protect the children??? You monster! /s
Edit: “Are you saying 9/11 didn’t change everything, because 9/11 changed everything” --Peter Griffin (I may have the quote wrong, but it was something like that)
Sounds very slimy all around
I am kind of tired of these posts. They need to be mentioned and discussed but you view these as an “anti west” article from my understanding.
The US, UK and other countries are bad but they are no where close to Russia, China, Iran or New Zealand in terms of the level of authoritarian surveillance. China and Russia especially are known for attacking and aiming to destroy free expression.
China and Russia are far more free than the US. In the US you can’t even peacefully protest against genocide. You can’t even criticize politicians. One guy was visited by capitol police just for criticizing AOC on Twitter (he did not threaten her in any way). In China and Russia you can talk shit about politicians all you want. Nobody cares.
I don’t live in those places, so 1) they don’t affect me or anyone else in my country and 2) there’s nothing I can do about them.
I do think we should raise awareness of attacks on democracy, freedom of speech or journalism.
I kind of annoys me a little when some person on Lemmy says how great Russia or China is. Sure US surveillance is not great to to compare it to China is not a great comparison. Maybe I’m just taking it to seriously.
China is no utopia and Russia much less so, but neither is nearly as bad as imperial core governments & corporate media try to convince us they are, and neither holds a candle to my own country.
New Zealand?
Yes
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The user who posted this constantly posts these kinds of articles. I just though it should be brought up.
aww muffin, you don’t like it when people hold a mirror to your society
Its not that these articles are irrelevant. They are definitely talking about real privacy issues. The problem is when people try to say that Russia or China are some how these great empires that are complete free of issues.
I’m not sure if you realized or not but Russia and China are much less private and have state dictated history. You can’t even read the public Wikipedia articles as they give you access to real information instead of the state narrative. For instance, back in WWII the US ran interment camps to imprison Asian Americans. It was wrong and terrible in many ways (I used to know a survivor) but the difference is it isn’t illegal to talk about or share information and discuss historically or current events.
Maybe its just me but I don’t like when people comment saying how China or Russia can do no wrong.
You’re literally the one who sealioned into this thread to bleat about Russia and China, sucking up air from any meaningful discussion. Try engaging with the content of the article instead of doing your whatabouting. Also not sure who said that Russia or China can do no wrong. Seems like a weird straw man you came up with in lieu of having any actual point to make.
Yeah maybe your right. At the end of the day I just don’t like people underplaying human rights abuses.
I’ll leave my comments up as I don’t see a reason to delete them. However, I’ll just ignore this thread.
WHAT human rights abuses? Is there a source that doesn’t link back to the CIA or state department?
And he will continue to do so. Maybe give “⊘ Block user” a try.
Yeah, you got a point. I just thought I’d bring it up before blocking.
Thanks for the reminder.
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Ah this must be the whataboutism I keep hearing about.
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What I can hear is just how mad you are about seeing them. It’s really great to know that they get under your skin to the point where you have to follow me around and make these vapid comments of yours.