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basically, don’t ever install meta apps on any of your devices and use a browser that has good tab isolation, always use Firefox would be my advice







Let’s say it is, so what? The actual question to ask whether the text conveys useful information to the reader or not. Whether LLM was used to make the content more readable is completely irrelevant.



Does it identify people like Kid Starver who are murdering the disabled on an industrial scale?











I’m actually not sure what it is fb offers that people stay on it for. I find that you don’t need it to connect with actual friends. Even just making a Slack for close friends is a far better experience. It’s not great for finding news, it’s terrible for trying to have any sort of discussion. I genuinely don’t understand what purpose it serves.



Sees something a capitalist regime does under capitalism, start talking about communism. 🤣


I’m not mixing anything up. You just wrote meaningless word salad. This is just a ridiculous comment.


In the West, we’re told our system is superior even if it fails to deliver any tangible progress, because we have free speech and privacy. Yet, while people in China flourish as our standard of living continues to decline, turns out the whole free speech argument was hollow all along. Irony, anyone?


Meanwhile, United Nations Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese:

“What is happening in Germany is not normal.”

“The more I hear, the more I’m shocked. This is a country that has lectured the Global South on fundamental freedoms—freedom of assembly, freedom of opinion.”

“What are Germans waiting for to say: enough!”

https://peertube.mesnumeriques.fr/w/8rRt3zjJDDebY35oSATi3B


Hope y’all remember how we had the propaganda blitz about the made up social credit system in China that everybody in the west was freaking out about. Well, now we can see what that actually looks like in real life.


a glitch where we had our ad team write the marketing material and setup a call center that would process these policies on the backend and training the backend call center staff to process these policies and built out backend systems to store and process said policies and a mechanism to push ads to the car. Besides all the a total glitch




It will be a dark day indeed when I allow my TV to connect to the internet. These things are glorified monitors.




It’s true, the atrocities the US is commits are on a far greater scale.



Yeah, but these are wholesome domestic spy agencies that are just looking after you and protect you from yourself.



It can’t work without breaking cryptography. Any system with backdoors in it is fundamentally insecure.



If you’re arguing that it is possible to build a system that uses a server for routing while keeping clients anonymous, then that is the case. However, what we’re talking about here is whether a malicious actor would be able to intentionally harvest metadata about the users. And my point was that since only the people operating the Signal server know what it’s actually doing, it becomes a trust based system. You have to trust that Whisper Systems is a good actor and they’re not harvesting your information.



You sign up to use Signal using your phone number which is a personally identifying piece of information. Signal clients send messages to the server that routes the messages to their destination. It is not a p2p system where clients talk directly to each other. Therefore, the server must know both the sending and receiving accounts for the messages it routes, and it has the phone numbers associated with this accounts. All these things together make it trivial for the server to know which phone numbers talk to each other.


Yeah, now that they finally have reproducible builds, at least you can trust that the client is doing what it says it’s doing.


What lies are you referring to, please be specific.



Sure, every platform has its own set of problems, and it’s fine to make an informed decision that you’re willing to accept the deficiencies of a particular platform you’re using. The issue I have is with people pretending that Signal doesn’t have the problems that it has as we can see happening in this very thread.


The only one making claims without evidence here is you bud. What I said is that Signal requires users to submit their phone numbers, and that only people operating the server know how that information is handled. These are objective facts.

You made a baseless claim that Signal does not retain the phone numbers or use them to build graphs of users. This is a claim that cannot be proven, and you keep repeating it as fact. Either you are clueless or you’re intentionally spreading misinformation.


I find it fascinating that these people show up in every thread about Signal, and they just spam the same nonsense.


Exactly, what we call this information is entirely besides the point. What matters is that it’s being collected, and nobody outside the people operating the server knows how this information is used. If somebody says they trust Whisper and make a conscious choice to share that information with the company that’s perfectly fine. However, telling people that the problem doesn’t exist is dangerously dishonest.


I don’t have to be. Lots of people, public and private, who are far more knowledgeable than me, already have.

Literally nobody outside Whisper has access to the server, and therefore nobody outside Whisper knows what the server does. The fact that you don’t understand this basic fact is frankly embarrassing.

You’re assuming they’re doing something nefarious but you have zero evidence to back that up.

As I’ve repeatedly explained to you in this thread, security cannot be based on trust. If data is available to an attacker then the system has to be assumed to be compromised. If you understood first thing about security you’d understand that this is a fundamental point.

The fact that you just keep regurgitating back what I write to you shows that you have all the intellectual capacity of a chat bot.


It’s not. And I’m tired of repeating myself.

Yes, you continue repeating a demonstrably false statement. A very astute observation on your part.

Once again, no one has access to the content of the messages. Ergo, there is no metadata. Maybe spend a bit of time actually learning about the subject instead of trolling here.

Once again, nobody is talking about content of the messages. What’s being said is that the identifying information about people sending and receiving messages is available to the server routing them. The fact that you continue ignoring this basic fact clearly shows that you’re the one who’s doing the trolling.


Your phone number is an identifying piece of information about the person who is sending and receiving messages. That’s what metadata is. The content of the message is the data, the identifying information is metadata. Maybe spend a bit of time actually learning about the subject instead of trolling here.


If someone gets information associated with that phone number, they get it from somewhere else, not Signal.

Unless you’re in a position to audit what the Signal server does with that data, which you’re not, then you’re just spewing nonsense here. You do not know what the server does with the information it collects.

No it doesn’t. You’re making it very clear that have absolutely no clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate here.

You are in no position to make that claim because you do not know what the server is doing with that data. The fact that you keep repeating this nonsense over and over isn’t going to make it true baby Goebbels.

No it isn’t. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

The fact that you don’t understand that security isn’t based on trust, clearly shows who’s actually embarrassing themselves.


The part that this is a false statement that you keep repeating. The phone number is associated with your account, that’s why it’s required to make the account.


That’s incorrect. Metadata is literally “data about the data”.

Yes, the phone number is data about the user sending the message. Let me know if you need me to use smaller words to explain this to you.

No, one just needs a rudimentary understanding of how encryption works. Actually looking at the subpoenas sent from Signal is helpful, though.

This has nothing to do with encryption. The phone number is being handed over by the user to the server. You’re making it very clear that have absolutely no clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate here.

Anybody who actually pays attention can see that there is no graph. A graph has interconnected points. There are no connections in Signal.

Signal server has to keep a graph of connections between the accounts in order to route messages between them. The messages are not delivered peer to peer.

Your entire argument is based on wild hypotheticals and conspiracy theories and you have zero evidence of anything nefarious, or you would have provided it already.

No, my entire argument is based on basic security practices that anybody who’s ever dealt with security would understand. Please stop embarrassing yourself.










Is there a reason why Signal is being promoted instead of Wire
It's based on Signal protocol and it's also open source. However, unlike Signal it doesn't harvest phone numbers. https://github.com/wireapp
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This is the problem with using VPN services in general, you have to have complete trust in the service provider.
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