As a medical doctor I extensively use digital voice recorders to document my work. My secretary does the transcription. As a cost saving measure the process is soon intended to be replaced by AI-powered transcription, trained on each doctor’s voice. As I understand it the model created is not being stored locally and I have no control over it what so ever.

I see many dangers as the data model is trained on biometric data and possibly could be used to recreate my voice. Of course I understand that there probably are other recordings on the Internet of me, enough to recreate my voice, but that’s beside the point. Also the question is about educating them, not a legal one.

How do I present my case? I’m not willing to use a non local AI transcribing my voice. I don’t want to be percieved as a paranoid nut case. Preferravly I want my bosses and collegues to understand the privacy concerns and dangers of using a “cloud sollution”. Unfortunately thay are totally ignorant to the field of technology and the explanation/examples need to translate to the lay person.

I don’t where you live. But almost all of bigtech US cloud is problematic (Read: Illegal to use) for storing or processing of Personal information according to the GDPR if you’re based in the EU. Don’t know about HIPPA and other non-EU legislation. But almost all cloudservices use US bigtech as a subprocessor under the hood. Which means that the use of AI and cloud is most likely not GDPR-complaint. Which you could mention to the right people and hope they listen.

Edit: It’s illegal to use for the processing of the patients PII, because of transfer to insecure third countries and because bigtech uses the data for their own purposes without any legal basis.

Edit 2: The same is the case with your, and your colleagues PII.

In my opinion privacy and GDPR is the same in this case. I think most public authorities is required to have a DPO, fx hospitals or the relevant health authority. The DPO can help answer your and your bosses questions on the mentioned questions.

Hope you figure it out.

You don’t have to use a cloud service to do AI transcription. You don’t even need to use AI. Speech to text has been a thing for like 30+ years.

Also, AWS has a FedRAMP authorized Gov Cloud that’s almost certainly HIPAA (and it’s non-us counterparts) compliant.

Also also, there are plenty of cloud based services that are HIPAA compliant.

What, exactly, are your privacy concerns about this?

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My biometric data, in this case my voice. Training an AI, tailored to my voice, out of my control, hosted as a cloud solution.

Of course there is an aspect of patient confidenciality too, but this battle is already lost. The data in the medical records is already hosted outside of my hospital.

Sounds like a weak argument. They’re not going to be inclined to operate a local ML system just for one or two people.

I would see if you can get a quote for locally-hosted transcription software you can run on your own, like Dragon Medical. Maybe reach out to your IT department to see if they already have a working relationship with Nuance for that software. If they’re willing to get you started, you can probably just use that for dictation and nobody will notice or care.

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Shouldn’t that be a HIPAA violation? Like you can’t in good conscious guarantee that the patient data isn’t being used for anything but the healthcare.

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It is until they prove it isn’t, which they might not be able to do. Many trusted 23andme only to see private data stolen. Make the company prove the security in place and the methods ensuring privacy, because you’ll essentially be liable for any failures of the system from a lack of due diligence.

Voice recognition dictation has been used in the medical field for over a decade, probably even longer. My regional health system of multiple hospitals and clinics has been using an electronic based, like Dragon dictation, solution since at least 2012. Unfortunately in this case op is being overly paranoid and behind the times. I’m all for privacy but the HIPAA implications have already been well sorted out. They need to either learn to type faster or use the system provided that will increase their productivity and save the health system an fte that used to be used on their transcriptionist which can not be used more directly to care for patients.

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“Overly paranoid”, with the practically-daily breaches of cloud-based systems today?

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