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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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lol cope and be normal I guess? I understand insta isn’t great with privacy but it’s a group chat for your room mates. Make a burner account instead of forcing all of them to download some app they’ve never heard of for one group chat with people they are forced to be acquaintances with.
They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out because you’re making a fuss over a group chat.
IG sucks
I do think you have to pick your battles when interacting digitally with people in your life, and I agree that you shouldn’t force anyone in to a solution they don’t want to use. But were I OP, I’d pick this battle. Refuse to use it, tell them they can leave you notes on the fridge.
Yeah…Person you’re replying to is saying, “Cope and be normal?” but also: the others are essentially trying to force/peer pressure OP/source of the image into a solution they don’t want to use. How is it that pushing people to do/use whatever’s “normal” is so acceptable compared to asking them to meet on more comfortable terms?
Who TF is using Instagram for group chats?
Yeah I’ve never seen insta used for group chats, but it is a commonly used app so I see their reasoning of “let’s just use the app that almost all of us already have set up”
This is why I never go in my friend group’s line chat, we have a discord channel with everyone in it but for whatever reason like half of them only want to use line
That’s my kid’s primary way of communicating with friends. It’s popular among high school students, or at least the band nerd subset of high school students.
Underground street racing teams. I’m not joking.
I see LOADS of younger looking people using messaging on insta when I take the bus.
If I saw that, I’d have to ask at least one of them, why? Such an odd choice given that’s not its main use case, but I’m guessing the answers would be something along the lines of, “Why not?” & “It’s what my friends are on.”
It’s the same reason people don’t get caught up on researching and buying the best socks, the best toothbrush, the best light switches, and so on. Most of the time people just want their stuff to work, and sometimes they may want the best option but most people don’t care about how exactly their messages are being sent
yeah I think its that last one. They do it cause that’s what other people are using too. Also talking to random’s on the bus is like playing russian roulette here unfortunately.
I have been in these kind of conversation a lot with my friends who work in tech. Even in tech circles, people wills till fall back to ‘unsafe’ solutions due to convenient an network effect. It sucks that we don’t have a universal protocal for instant messaging that work for all platforms and is secured (f**k Apple for that). At this point I agree that it’s just easier to just move on and use a normie chat app with burner accounts (which is increasingly harder to make nowadays)
And a decade ago, Google itself sabotaged XMPP in their version of embrace, extend, and extinguish: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/google-abandons-open-standards-instant-messaging
Wow! A 2013 article talking about federation and Google going evil, and now here we are.
Problem: group messaging
Smart solution: private lean messaging app
Stupid solution: a bloated social media app that will still fingerprint and track you and feed your data back even on a burner account
Blah blah friends jumping off a bridge.
Here among the hillfolk we actually have a day for jumping off a bridge, this year it’s Oct 21. 800 foot drop. Just look up Bridge Day for the New River Gorge.
It brings a whole new meaning to that age old question when it’s not necessarily a metaphor.
Most people care about comfort and ease of use more than about privacy. Deal with it and stop complaining about what app others use.
No, that’s not how it works.
If an app is ugly, that I can deal with.
If it is slow, then still, but I may disallow it from running in the background because of my battery. I’ll just check in at the end of the day or something.
Too few features? That sucks, don’t really care, it’s only for this group, they choose it. Same when it’s not comfortable for me or complicated.
But when it is spying on me, that is an absolute dealbraker I’ll not accept.
Wut
Roommates aren’t exactly people you can painlessly choose not to communicate with. This isn’t about other people personally choosing to using an app on their daily life, this is them pushing OP to install spyware on their phone.
I’m sure Zuck really gets a lot of mileage out of messages like "Who keeps filling the trash and not taking it out?!*
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/your-phone-metadata-is-more-revealing-than-you-think
Maybe the content itself isn’t useful, but they can analyze the sentiment and determine if you are diplomatic, passive aggressive, etc. which can be used to create a stronger profile of your preferences.
What’s wrong with jumping off a bridge?
Couple summers ago we met some friendly folks drinking high proof vodka out of a Powerade bottle, hanging out on a dock outside Millinocket, and they invited us to go jump off a bridge. 20 miles down a dirt road they pull off their clapped out crown vic, miss the ditch, get out and walk onto a logging road bridge. Best day ever. Invitations to jump off bridges should be seriously considered.
holy shit I was a little worried this was about to be a story about how you met me and my ex.
Why don’t you get a potato and some drawing pins and you can all attach notes to the potato.
Simple. Low tech, nobody need to download anything
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Can I ask why you didn’t post this context in the OP post?
The post does say he(OP) suggested(not requested) use of signal. I don’t think more context is needed
yeah but without the context in the OP, I saw a lot of people making assumptions
Why don’t you just respond why you think Signal is a better choice? Comments here won’t help regular people get with encryption.
I also don’t see how this relates to anything specific to gen z as I see the exact same behavior in my gen x / millenial peers.
Yeah, my whole life feels like a parade of shitty messengers winning.
More info needed here. I don’t see OP “making a fuss” but putting down someone’s suggestion so bluntly is kind of rude.
This my advice too. Just make a burner and chat through there.
If there weren’t a housing crisis then I’d say fuck em, but it’s hard enough finding roommates as is.