'Pay or Okay' explained: Why more and more websites make you pay for your privacy
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How do pay or consent systems work and what are the issues? Max Schrems explains it all in this explainer video
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My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don’t pay or try to leave.

Can’t do that in the EU (thank you GDPR).

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but they do this here anyway, at least in germany

They can, but then that can end up in EU court. If it happened to you, tell the consumer association of your country or your Data Protection Officer. People and companies can do what ever they like, they just have to live with the consequences.

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My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don’t pay or try to leave.

Are golem, pur, spiegel, and others doing so? Have you tried asking for your data to be deleted and gotten a “fuck you we won’t” or no response at all (which is also the equivalent of “fuck you we won’t”)?

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Sadly, they are doing it in spain, the judges recently stated that they can do it, and few days later almost all of the spanish newspappers had it.

Care to elaborate?

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Im in the US. The law dose not apply to businesses who can pay bribes.

Join us in the EU 🙂

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Unless the US is joining the EU, telling people to move is not a solution but a side-stepping. Side-stepping problems allows them to continue and grow.

The Doctor
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How much oil do you have?

None?

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Then, nah.

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Also, how can we be assured the privacy practices of their subscription/payment platform are at least better than the (likely blockable) trackers?

Forming a financial relationship with a website is, theoretically, infinitely more traceable to your personal identity than all the cookies in the world.

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My bank would probably tell everyone before they did.

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