Finally deleted my LinkedIn account!

After putting my account into “hibernation” for the past few weeks, I finally closed it. But I’m still looking for work. Thankfully I can still find positions (SRE and software dev) by just going directly to the company’s site and finding a Jobs page.

Good luck to everyone else out there looking for work!

#privacy @privacy

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Went through a couple comments of both „still use it“ and „dont need it at all“.

We need a fedi linkedin clone

Its again totally obvious that we need a fediverse linkedin clone, especially geared towards work, with a full cv function, option to hide your personal data until you approve a future employer, ways like mastodon for companies to prove they are legit to even be able to see a persons personal data so they dont dox themselves to some rando.

I cant do it on my own but willing to help

I‘m unable to set this up so please take the idea and run with it. Probably just a mastodon fork tbh with specific features. If anyone feels like doing this and needs business knowledge from an entrepreneur/CEO perspective, lmk.

Thank you for reading and have a good one!

I agree that LinkedIn is shit, but I’m not sure it’ll be resolved by going fedi. IMO what would be more important is a better job posting board. LinkedIn job search sucks galactic balls. The “remote jobs” search option is a fucking joke. Keywords are so blatantly spoiled by SEO and LinkedIn refuses to clean it up.

Not sure if a federated job search board would improve the situation though…

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I agree that going fedi doesn’t automatically solve the issues. However, moving it away from a multi tiered paid platform (they really tailored it so they could do this) and controlling the bots/scam accounts would be a completely different experience. I think fedi would at least solve the first one, and I’d expect would help controlling the second.

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Its you again! Your signature always identifies you instantly.

I agree that linkedin is shit. Any form of alternative would be good but honestly, I‘m not using any social media that isnt democratic anymore. So my only chance at it is making it democratic.

Have a good one.

Its you again! Your signature always identifies you instantly.

😂 Thanks, I was hoping it would’ve caught on by now, but that’s fine.

I‘m not using any social media that isnt democratic anymore

Respect. LinkedIn shouldn’t have been social media, but they went ahead and did it. I too would like an alternative.

You have a good one too 🙂

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So… how do you add an automatic signature? Asking for a friend…

It’s a keyboard shortcut that sends the keystrokes to the active window 😉 I wish there were a lemmy client that did it for me, but this is what I have to do for now.

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Fair. I added it to my bio for now. Baby steps is how we learn to run.

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I just went ahead and did something. Since I consider you very knowledgeable I would like to invite you to look at it and share your opinion. I‘ll send you the link if you‘re interested.

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“galactic balls” - I am so going to use this phrase…

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I might as well

The same has occurred to me numerous times. I’m not the guy to lead the project, but I’d certainly be willing to dive in and help.

Honestly, I’m somewhat surprised there isn’t one, or at least a zygote of one, already.

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Feel free to help. I just spun something up. Whoever else is interested, dm me.

Shout less, please.

Also, no I won’t develop your app. Could (maybe), won’t.

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I‘m not shouting. I‘m using proper headlines.

I could also not care less what you would or could do.

I‘m using proper headlines.

Ma man 🫰

I‘m not shouting. I‘m using proper headlines.

Seen anyone else using them ?

I could also not care less what you would or could do.

But you use social media…

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Yes.

I‘m interacting with you. That doesnt mean I care. I would care if you had anything constructive to offer, so feel free to start.

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Just imagine responding to LinkedIn post from Lemmy

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That would be both frightening and funny. But I dont know which one is more.

What difference does the federation make in this case? Either way the personal data is in someone else’s computer.

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Federated means democratic. We‘re on lemmy because free association. Its obvious that all other social media, including work related, should be federated, in fact it should be outlawed to have anything public-non-federated. We need to destroy all walled gardens.

On the other topic of personal data: the critical data like real name, home address, phone number, email address, former employers etc. should absolutely not be federated, thats a need to know basis.

The public profiles are the same as mastodon and don’t constitute personal data in my book: your skills, the industries and length of employment.

The important part is that you can put your personal data on an instance (which might or might not be your own) and encrypt it so nobody except you can read it and if you get an offer, the future employer gets an encypted view of your data which could also be on auto delete if the job falls through.

On the other topic of personal data: the critical data like real name, home address, phone number, email address, former employers etc. should absolutely not be federated, thats a need to know basis.

Wait till you hear about yellow pages and white pages!

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Yeah, there we really have to agree to disagree.

You will always have silos of control and that is a good thing. The fact that makes it democratic is that you have access to it. If you dont like the rules of the instance, you move or spin up your own.

What you‘re saying is just everyone for themselves, diverting the already thinly stretched attention of fedi-capable folks even more.

Again, I think its okay to disagree. I‘m just saying „but i want“ is not a valid reason to reinvent the wheel imo.

Our problem is not a system, it is certain behavior of certain people corrupting the system until itself becomes the problem. The solution is not bringing down the system but outlawing the behavior (the dark triad) because although I consider myself a leftist and close to anarchism, I recognize that we have a lot of narcissists and psychopaths in that space as well. Those who are willing to take any measure to bring the current people in power down to take power themselves. Bullying people into submission is no different than being rich and paying them for it.

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I agree. Federation isnt the end. But right now, we have to build this up and abolish the old, not abolish the new imo. Thats why I say federation everywhere now, concentrate everything on making this work and worry about the next thing afterward.

The reason I say this is also because I founded a couple of very successful businesses because my autistic brain has a very significant advantage: intense focus. Focusing your efforts on one thing is insanely important and the only way to really get somewhere.

Have you ever wondered why there are better systems, fairer systems but they never take hold? The reason imo isnt (only) because the 1% actively fight them and lead the rest to fight them as well but because the anarchists and leftists cant agree on a goal to pursue.

They burn themselves out without much to show for it. Constantly shaming each other for not being leftist enough, voting, not voting, etc. Thats the only reason why autocracy works. Right wingers have one enemy: leftists. Leftists have hundreds because they’re all different shades of left.

If we actually for some reason got the idea to ask what our smallest common denominator is, we would actually het somewhere. But the little narcissist in most of us doesnt want that because their idea was „better“. Its the old curse of „too smart for your own good“.

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Thats a very insightful and well formulated comment. Thank you for this. It was very easy to read ans touched a pot of points.

The standards xkcd is pretty iconic, ngl.

My point with mixing politics in is that most of us have common goals but we dont talk about them. I‘d imagine most of us want to be free from (corporate) control, which isnt by design political but in fact only really lived by the highly progressive and so on. But yes, I used politics as an example for splitting effort.

The idea of distributed spcial networks in itself isnt bad but saying it will work when we have no signs for it kinda is. Bittorrent is great and all but it works to overcome many problems that normal downloads at the time had and doesnt have any of the limitations what social media has (need for moderation, need for linked actions, etc)

Finally, the reason I think we have large instances is that running a social network is no joke. I have my own instance with just a handful of friends and there are technical, legal and moderation issues. These wont go away. People wont learn to host a server and open source wont make it dead easy tomorrow. It will take years until a next lemmy is easily deployable.

And the reason that lemmy isnt easily deployable is that making a social network is no joke either. the devs get a lot of hate for things that arent their fault. I donated a (for me) large chunk of money to them for their efforts because I am the change I want to see.

So, I agree, we will need to evolve further and further but we arent evolving in anything (it feels like) except the fediverse. So instead of pushing the one fhing that is actually progressive to break itself, I‘d use my energy to push voting to become federated, to push banking to become federated (as in think about a successor to crypto or get a standard to form that is clearly superior).

I hope my intension is clear here. I‘m pushing hard for the fediverse to succeed and see big scares along the way (corpo intervention for example) and I know how burnout and attention spread work against us so although I agree that progress is important, many people who havent lived through burnout dont get the need for nuance.

Have a good one.

option to hide your personal data until you approve a future employer

I think this is impossible in a fediverse context. Data is either shared publicly or only shared with your home instance’s admins. There’s no other sharing model as far as I know.

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Thats no issue. You can make only public data federate and use p2p for sensitive data.

Public would be your skills, some text about yourself, your industries and amount of employed years in each industry without dates or companies.

Think of it like a puzzle. First part the employer gets to see. They can search „java dev 5 yrs exp“ and get 100 peeps, in state/country/remote, for xxx$ per year/month/hour.

Then they can send you a request but only if they have authenticated through their own public website like on mastodon. If you accept, they can ask you questions and talk. If you reach common ground, they can request your full cv which could be self deleting or something in case the job falls through.

Its not a perfect system but its a lot safer than sending a cv per unencrypted email imo. or answering to some rando on linkedin. Also, anyone who knows you can find you on linkedin with your clear name. Its totally crazy to decline the potential of such a project in light of the current situation.

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My understanding is that Activitypub federation and that sort of privacy are somewhat incompatible. Because someone could always just create a new instance and then federate the stuff you don’t want shared with them.

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