Masked protesters could soon face arrest, says Home Office
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Rights groups say proposed police powers for England and Wales are pandering to ‘culture war nonsense’

"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.

Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."

Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.

Hmm…I wonder which political spectrum the current government belongs to…

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Fuck the Tories right, but I also don’t see Starmer opposing any of this.

That would mean taking a stance on an issue, which might alienate some voters somewhere.

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Starmer is like like 1 cm left of rishi

A μm at best.

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Exactly… (leaving both firmly on the right)

Vote none, and start organising (in your work place, in your community, in your own home inspiring your kids). If you still can’t see that the system is designed by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful, you’re not paying any real attention (precisely why the media keeps society constantly looking at anything but how things are really run).

We need to abolish the establishments keeping us down, not continue to play their game by their rules and wonder why things never change…

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tbh I’m scared of the power the gov already has. I am worried if I join any communist org, it will endanger my partners immigration status. I also don’t see the orgs around me doing much useful stuff it seems, mostly just selling newspapers (that no one buys cos they cost a fiver)

I hate kier but not voting for Labour would be stupid, protest votes or non votes don’t count any the only people pushing that idiocy are the rich right wing because they don’t want you to vote against them

Everyone just thinks ‘oh look these people are too dumb, busy, or disconnected to vote oh well’

You can still resist and work against a system you voted for,

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You can vote as left as you can and still do whatever you are saying to do. Having ultraright nazi shits in power because you’re an internet idiot will not help you - in fact it will completely rob you of the chance to ever change anything. You dumb fucks will solve the world by not fucking voting, even if the game is rigged you don’t have to be the dumbest shit about it

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Tell me you didn’t click the link without saying you didn’t click the link (hint: it literally tells people to vote).
Also tell me you buy in to the distraction propaganda without saying you buy in to the distraction propaganda (hint: having a red tie on while not opposing a single piece of fascist legislation makes you, at the very least, a fascist enabler, or in reality, simply another fascist just one who is better at hiding it)…

You’re literally giving a live demonstration of why continuing to play within their rules leads nowhere but deepening the divide within the working class.

Blaming the people trapped in it, for the system keeping us all down, instead of those who created and benefit from it is one hell of a self destructive trick you’re doing for your overlords…

Either way, you’re an ableist piece of crap, licking a boot because you’ve simply grown too comfortable with the feeling of it rammed down your throat, you have no high ground here. ¯\(ツ)

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I’m not talking about the article, it’s about saying no. If I need to read the article that says yes when your link says no… I’m just sick of the onslaught of defetism online where a whole bunch of people have the idea they can just ignore reality and it’s all gona fix itself. But who cares right, will all be dead because of the climate wars so it’s all cool

Whatever gets them votes. Actual conservatives would at least pretend to care about the economy.

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Why? Conservatism is about preserving traditional values and traditional power structures not the economy.

If you actually care about the economy that means you care about progressing a more effective and efficient state for the benefit of the people. Afraid that makes you a progressive which the conservatives assure us they aren’t.

Conservatism is about preserving the status quo. (As opposed to reactionaries that want to restore the status quo ante)

Not necessarily the current status quo though. Just the status quo where they have the most power.

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Kaboom - Well if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.

Yes Immigrants are the problem /s

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Well if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.

What “traditional values” are you talking about?

We’re a nation of migrants; you don’t get to rewrite history because it makes you mad.

The first immigration law passed in this country was a process for naturalization; it doesn’t get more traditional than that.

The UK isn’t a nation of migrants, they are not America.

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Man i am this close to just blocking the reddthat instance. I dunno why but too many chuds and bad, bad fucking takes crawl out from under there

Someone tell the 1066 Normans they were actually born in England.

Oh, and the Romans.

Oh, and the Saxons.

Oh you mean the guys who literally invaded? I don’t think you’re helping your case.

Oh, I see.

You don’t care about the truth.

It all makes sense now.

So when you said the UK isn’t a nation of migrants you knew you were wrong?

Some people actually aren’t afraid of history, to the despair of conservatives worldwide.

Also, what a fun admission that Europeans invaded the Americas. I’m sure you’ll be logically consistent there.

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