cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/44544181

I read about Google’s decision of not releasing the firmware source code going forward. Is it still the case? If it is, should one purchase any Pixel 8/9/10 series in hope of keeping it for a long time?

I am planning to purchase a new Pixel 9 (used ones are not an option unfortunately) during the Black Friday or something. It will be a substantial amount but I am hoping it will be justified with amortisation.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I cannot find a clear cut answer in the forums.

OP, I am in the same boat. The features shown in GrapheneOS are very nice and I want to buy Pixel just to put it on. Is there a reason you go for the 9, beside price? I’m really keen on the 9a due to its flat camera and low price. I dont like phones with bumped camera. However, recent JerryRig video shows that the 9a is very very difficult to replace the battery, so not sure if it is good in the long run lol.

cyborganism
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Is there one god damn phone out there we can buy that’s somewhat ethical and redirects or privacy?

flatbield
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Fairphone maybe.

Is there one god damn phone out there we can buy that’s somewhat ethical and redirects or privacy?

Fairphone? Haven’t been following that, but I’m pretty sure it’s the most ethical phone to consume…at least in theory.

Unlocked open source bootloader?

cyborganism
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Is it any good? I know it’s probably not going to be up to Google Pixel’s quality or Samsung’s, but still.

Unfortunately, I don’t have one.

They are releasing the code, just as release snapshots. We don’t know how it’s going to affect GrapheneOS yet.

This just relegates the pixel to the same status as other devices such as Motorola or OnePlus.

Custom operating systems will still absolutely work on them, but it will take longer to get the updates because of the source code not being released like it was.

If you imagine it like a plane, they got bumped down from first class to coach, but they did not get kicked off the plane entirely.

i like that plane analogy lol

Then there will be no point in making Pixel custom roms, as the main selling point (quick Android updates) will be null.

I don’t see that as the main selling point. I see not having Google as the main selling point, and it’s not like the updates will be that much slower. It might take them like a month instead of a week. That’s not a bad problem.

The developers (at least security-oriented ones like Graphene) absolutely do care about quick security updates.

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None of the other phones have proper security architecture

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