Some countries have passed strict new laws dictating youth access to digital platforms.
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I quit discord a year ago for Matrix or XMPP. never looked back.
I cant even get in my discord because I never get the verification email. Each time I have to contact customer support. F that platform.
Element is a good alternative, OpenSource and federated
soooo, honest opinions of discord users here: hows matrix nowadays? what are the other options?
It really depends on how you use Discord. Matrix was never trying to be a Discord alternative so for some usecases it’s fine, but for a place to hang out with your friends and play video games it’s not.
Element x is pretty solid but not perfect, matrix-rust-sdk needs to have desktop clients, servers need to support all the new stuff, I give element 5 years before it’s a top tier messenger
No.
Please give me a federated, self-hosted Discord alternative! I’m tired of these bullshit platforms.
Not federated, but Revolt can be self-hosted and is very similar to Discord in the look and feel from what I have seen (I have it installed, but haven’t tried getting friends to install it and am not hosting). So it could be worth looking into for folks that are used to Discord.
It’s not federated, the developer is specifically against federation. He didn’t even support self-hosting properly and officially, until the community made pullrequests in this regard themselves. Revolt is mainly made to be hosted by the developer himself. Probably just another Discord. Open-sourcing the code doesn’t do anything.
Good to know information, I haven’t looked into it beyond installing it to see how similar it was. Still could be a starting point for some folks that have the option to self-host and more specifically have large friend groups that have issues with only liking the UI of Discord. A very specific scenario for sure, but still nice to have options if one like that were to happen.
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facebook does the same thing, except also requires a photo ID too. it seems alot right wingers have migrated to these 2 platforms so they can control narratives better, better off staying away from these platforms.
How am I going to rip on them until they have aneurysms if I’m not on there too?
Byeeeeee
Weird, I recall Lemmy being so happy when Australia pass the “social media ban” for kids thing. Guess Lemmings forgot stuff like this also impact adults.
I don’t remember it like that at all. I saw lots of complaints about the privacy impacts and how ineffective it would be.
The hacker known as lemmy
L’Mao, the Chinese Hacker
The downfall of discord
Cool. I’m out then.
Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who’ve been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It’s also US-based
I agree. Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on here. Any expectation of anonymity on Lemmy, a social network, is not warranted.
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Correct, I don’t really want 12-year-olds commenting here either. Do you? Genuine question
Though Lemmy instances are largely public. You don’t need an account to view their contents. So that’s pretty different from Discord
For the record, I do think the laws will apply to Lemmy instances
I don’t care about the user’s age, I care about their behavior.
There are adults here that act immature and bicker like a child, I don’t want those either.
Its easier to enforce a code of conduct and ban users with bad behavior, rather than something arbitrary, like age.
How are you even suppose to verify someone’s age without violating privacy?
Interesting. I think most users would assume they’re talking to other adults and might change their language or behavior if they thought they were conversing with children
Age is anything but arbitrary from a law perspective. With these laws there is no expectation of privacy in regards to age. I’d argue there never was, it was just poorly enforced and got normalized
Why shouldn’t young children be able to use Discord? I have kids and want them to be able to use it to chat while they play games with friends and with me.
I’ll try to keep them to only chatting with people they know until I think they’re mature enough.
I have kids too. I’m not singling out Discord here, just pointing out they’re trying to follow the law.
Young kids and social media are inherently a bad mix. Primarily because it promotes antisocial behaviors and they cannot effectively comprehend and consent to the privacy polices and TOS. Hence why adults need to be involved in account creation.
the creators of the laws requiring said guardrails should be held personally accountable for every piece of information that gets leaked as a result of their bs “think of the children” arguments.
I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification or we need actual data privacy laws in the US with some teeth. As it is right now it’s basically a guarantee that your ID and facial data will be in a breach eventually. Seems like every site will require this once it starts.
Yep. Probably a billion dollar idea if you can execute it properly. These laws are spurring competition
I think most peoples’ facial data is already for sale and breachable/leakable
I mean. . . It should be up to the parents to protect and educate their children. It is very easy to set up protections on a computer to either not let them use discord or to not allow them to install it.
That’s a false dichotomy. Parents can and should protect children. Social media sites can and should protect children. It’s in the social interest. Parents don’t have control over every device a child has access to. Firewalls at schools and libraries are often lackluster
Personally I won’t use a site that wants to scan my face. My computer doesn’t even have a camera.
I am also not going to upload a scan of my ID. We are on Lemmy for goodness sake. Clearly I care at least a little bit about my privacy.
It seems to me that there is no good way to ensure that children are kept away from content they shouldn’t have access to without serious privacy concerns.
Need alternatives to have built-in, easy to use screenshare with audio. And of course great noise filtering on voice chats.
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