How to upgrade to Windows 11 - most privacy, freedom and efficiency - Lemmy.World
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There are a ton of people using EOL (end of life) Windows versions, which is kinda scary. Not few of them do so because Microsoft has made updating something negatively associated, which is also incredible. Updating software is essential, please do so. If you don’t want to and don’t need Windows-only software, there are a bunch of penguin people that happily guide your way through Linux. I recently installed Win11 for a friend who needs Adobe software, and I think I have achieved a near perfect result, with minimal hassle. This guide will show you how to do a clean install of nearly unchanged Windows 11, and adapt it with a few free and open source tools, to be less invasive and resource intense. If you don’t want to reinstall, the german tech news channel Heise has made a Registry hack that allows upgrading normally to Windows 11, if your hardware is unsupported. - [DE] Guide on their website [https://www.heise.de/news/Microsoft-zeigt-Trick-zur-Umgehung-der-Windows-11-Anforderungen-6212391.html] - [EN] TheVerge article on bypassing Win11 hardware checks [https://www.theverge.com/22715331/how-to-install-windows-11-unsupported-cpu-intel-amd-registry-regedit] - Another website (paywalled) [https://www.heise.de/ratgeber/Nach-Upgrade-auf-Windows-11-teilweise-keine-Sicherheitsupdates-erhaeltlich-10260745.html] - YouTube video explaining the process [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-bm8JTvBBU] The following guide uses Rufus to disable these checks. ## Prerequisites - Windows 10 machine - 2-3 pendrives / USB-sticks with 4 and 9GB storage - external backup drive (e.g. a SATA SSD in a USB case like this one [https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.computer-bild.de%2Fimgs%2F5%2F4%2F5%2F5%2F6%2F8%2F7%2FFantec-2-5-SATA-USB-3-0-Festplattengehaeuse-658x370-a78f234f6e7027f4.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a6ebca768dcd9b85c8159bebe5f3f4410d80700d81bc93844738b8abf0d7b47b&ipo=images]) - internet connection If you have a lot of drives, remove all of them apart from the one where Windows is installed. # 1. Backup No backup no mercy, now is the time to do it. To do this, you best use an external drive that you can remove from the computer. So I recommend a big enough SATA SSD in a case, they are extremely reliable and cheap. I use a Crucial SSD, but also others which never failed on me. Do not use any encryption tools made by Microsoft (i.e. Bitlocker), as you likely cannot get data back without Windows, and maybe even on another machine. Instead, we will use a different tool. ## 1.1 Filesystem Windows is a very limited OS, and it only supports a handful of useful filesystems. Normally Windows would format external drives with NTFS, which can be read on Linux, but not on macOS. For a full backup, exFat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT] would be okay, as it supports files bigger than 4GB (unlike Fat32, the default USB stick format). But I don’t know how to format a drive with that filesystem and don’t bother. UDF [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format] is better suited for this job though. Like exFat it works on Linux, MacOS and Windows and it is mainly used in DVDs. UDF is more resistant to data corruption and fragmentation (relevant on spinning hard drives). Windows supports it, but does not easily allow creating it [https://www.getusb.info/how-to-format-a-flash-drive-as-udf-windows-7-10-solution], so you need a Linux live USB too create a medium. Formatting the external drive will remove all data, so make sure to copy it over to the current system first. ::: spoiler Optional Steps ### 1.1.1 Live Linux environment If you choose to use the more advanced UDF filesystem, it is easiest to create it using a Linux “Live USB stick”. As we need this tool later anyways, we install Rufus [https://rufus.ie/], to write .iso files to USB sticks. Now we need a good Linux variant (distribution, desktop) to do this, I find Fedora with the KDE Plasma desktop [https://fedoraproject.org/kde/] to be the easiest and most powerful. Fedora recommends to use their “Fedora Media Writer” and it works well, but Rufus is also fine and needed for Windows. ### 1.1.2 Download Download Fedora with the KDE Plasma desktop here [https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/41/Spins/x86_64/iso/]. On a standard PC, you need the x86_64 or amd64 variant, so here we choose Fedora-KDE-Live.... Note that 41 is the current version (March 2025) and Fedora releases a new version every 6 months. So you should use the updated URL following this scheme https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/NUMBER/Spins/x86_64/iso/ # for example https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/42/Spins/x86_64/iso/ Steps - Download the .iso file - Plug in a min 4GB USB pendrive / stick - Install and open Rufus - Select the Fedora .iso file to write - Write the ISO ### 1.1.3 Turn off the PC Once finished, turn off the PC. Windows does not really turn off all the time, which is the cause of battery drain on laptops and will prevent the following steps. If you cannot physically remove the battery or remove all power, open Powershell as administrator and run this command %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 0 You can also open the text editor, enter this command, and save it as shutdown.bat on your desktop. Then you can to a real shutdown by clicking on the file. ### 1.1.4 Boot into Linux Turn on the PC, now you need to know the key to press to show the boot menu. Try F1 to F10, if Windows boots, shut it down using the power button. Repeat until you see “Fedora Linux” as boot option, select it using the arrow keys and Enter. Some laptops (like the Acer Swift 3 I used) seem to not have a boot menu, so you need to enter the BIOS settings, go to boot options and set the flashdrive as first option. Now Linux is starting. As this is an installer system, you don’t need a password and will be presented with a KDE Plasma desktop! Fedora KDE Plasma demonstration [https://slrpnk.net/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffedoraproject.org%2F_nuxt%2Fbackground_plasma.XBHSz62f.png] ### 1.1.5 Format the backup SSD Plug in your external backup SSD and open the app “KDE Partitionmanager”. KDE Partition Manager UI [https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/0ce4ba0b-f138-48b1-9cc8-060bcb6d0f31.png] Select the correct drive (should be detectable through the size). Use the button “New Partition Table” and select GPT. Now create 1 or 2 partitions. If you want to use Linux later, you can create a backup partition for Linux here. For the Windows backup partition: 1. Right click, New partition 2. Filesystem UDF 3. Name: Backup-Windows 4. Size: how much you want, default is max, you can use half if you want to also store Linux backups here For the Linux backup partition (if you want) 1. Make sure to have space left (step before) 2. Create a new partition 3. Filesystem EXT4, BTRFS or XFS. BTRFS is good if you use a spinning hard drive, otherwise use EXT4 4. Encrypt the drive, use LUKS2, set a password. Make sure to use a password that you can type in QWERTY layout, as it might be used in some steps in the boot process by default. 5. Size max Then use the “Apply” button in the top left to change the disk. If you don’t do this, no changes will be done. Example: screenshot of how the disk would look like [https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/5d6d3ee7-5e39-4259-a30f-9e1e46cc07b0.png] Now you can turn off the Linux system again, remove the pendrive and boot into Windows again. ___ ::: ## 1.2 Encrypted Backup location As we want to avoid storing our data without encryption, but also want to prevent Microsoft from locking us out from our own data [https://www.laptopmag.com/laptops/windows-laptops/the-latest-windows-update-has-some-users-trapped-in-bitlocker-recovery-heres-how-to-fix-it], we do not use Filesystem encryption and instead use free tools that work on Linux, Windows and macOS. We can use Veracrypt [https://www.veracrypt.fr/] or Cryptomator [https://cryptomator.org/]. Veracrypt is old and reliable, Cryptomator also works well and is optimized for cloud storages, as it encrypts files as small snippets. Both tools have passed security checks (audits) and can be used, but Cryptomator is a bit easier to use and might perform faster for updates, due to how it encrypts files. - Download and install Cryptomator from the website - Plug in the backup drive - Open Cryptomator - Create a new vault - Select a place in your backup drive - Set a password - Unlock the vault and open it. Now backup all your things in here: ## 1.3 Backup Make sure to copy Downloads, Images, Documents etc. If you dont want to lose appdata, you can use this known trick to view it. Press Windows-Key+R and type %appdata%. The filemanager will show the folder where many apps save their configurations, Firefox profiles and more. Copy what you want to the backup drive. Do not compress it if you want to regularly back it up. # 2. Download Windows ISO and Software Download the Windows 11 ISO from this website [https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11]. Do not install the “Media creation tool”, as Rufus has additional features. Meanwhile, download a bunch of software for later use - DoNotSpy11 [https://pxc-coding.com/donotspy11/] to set a bunch of settings that change the spying behavior of Windows. - Bulk Crap Uninstaller [https://github.com/Klocman/Bulk-Crap-Uninstaller/releases/latest] which allows you to remove a lot of preinstalled software - Firefox [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/download/thanks] instead of MS Edge - Thunderbird [https://www.thunderbird.net/] instead of the crippled “New Outlook” - VLC Media Player [https://www.videolan.org/] instead of the Windows Movie Player - IrfanView [https://www.irfanview.com/64bit.htm] instead of the Windows Photos app Check on “Alternative To [http://alternativeto.net/]” for alternative software you might need. Optionally you can also use tools like Portmaster [https://safing.io/] but this will create a more complex system to manage, if you want profound privacy improvements. Do not pretend that Windows is a secure system where you can safely store personal files and do private browsing. Use this system as an appliance and no more. Save the software to a pendrive. You can use the one with linux on it, but you need to reformat it with Windows (it will tell you nonsense like “there is a problem with that flashdrive” anyways, so this is pretty easy) # 3. Create a Windows install media - Plug in the 8GB Pendrive - Open Rufus - Open the downloaded Windows 11 ISO - Select the correct pendrive as target - Rufus chooses default settings, they are fine - It shows a dialog window where you can enable changes. Select the ones you want. If you have supported hardware, do not disable that, for example. - local account - no onedrive - no forced bitlocker encryption - bypass hardware requirements (minimum RAM and TPM 2.0) - continue, wait until finished # 4. Install Windows Remove the backup drive, reboot the computer. See under hidden chapter 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 how to deal with issues booting into the Windows USB stick. Follow the (damn ugly) installer. Remove all partitions on your PC that were previously used by Windows. Continue When the install is almost done, the new fancy steps will be shown, where you should connect to Wifi. The option “I don’t have internet” should be shown, use that to avoid tracking and forced online accounts. # 5. Setup Windows Once installed, you will have a Windows 11 desktop. It is likely Windows 11 Home, which has a bunch of bloatware preinstalled, but way less than at the beginning of Windows 11 or even Windows 10. ## 5.1 Debloating, Optimizations Do not connect to the Internet yet, install BCUninstaller and DoNotSpy11. In BCU, enable “uninstall using checkboxes” and the configs to remove protected packages. It does not work often anyways. In DoNotSpy11 you can disable Windows Recall and more “AI” crap, but be aware that is also allows you to turn off random security features. Only disable what you understand. Install the other software you want now. ## 5.2 WinUtil Then connect to the internet, and use ChrisTitus’ Windows Utility [https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil] to set a bunch more things. Open Powershell as Administrator, and enter irm "https://christitus.com/win" | iex in here you can do a lot of things, mainly - remove Edge - set updates to “security updates only” (you may or may not want that). DO NOT DISABLE UPDATES, this is stupid. - disable telemitry, Cortana, web search, ads and more ## 5.3 GUI changes The huge search bar always annoys me as it has no purpose that the windows button does not serve. You can disable it in the panel settings (right click on the panel). Uninstalling Software automatically fixes a bunch of things. Cortana, Ads, “Recommended Apps”, News and the Edge Browser will be gone. You may still want to change some minor things, like disabling transparency and animations to reduce hardware load. # 6. Restore Backup You should have Cryptomator installed, so now you can connect the backup drive, unlock it with your password and copy over all your files! Windows is pretty slow at handling many small files, the filemanager might hang when moving too many, simply wait until it is done. # 7. Reboot The account does not have a password yet! So you need to reboot, then you can set a user password. # 8. Dual-Boot with Linux Dual-booting on the same drive is kinda hacky and can result in breakages of the Windows or Linux system when done wrong. It is recommended to use separate drives when possible, but using the same drive IS possible. ::: spoiler Dual-Boot Instructions ## 8.1 shrink Windows partition In Windows, search for “Partition” and open the partition manager. Here you see a big NTFS partition, which you can resize. Select the smaller new size you want, which will free space after the partition, where you can then install Linux. ## 8.2 Install Linux You can choose what Linux variant you want. Depending on how often you want to use the system, you want one with more or less frequent updates. If you only boot the system once a month or so, something like Debian or AlmaLinux would be good. If you use it regularly, something like Fedora, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Slowroll can be nice. Keep in mind that not all systems work well with dualbooting. I generally recommend Fedora Atomic Desktops [https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops] and derivatives like “universal blue’s” Bluefin [https://projectbluefin.io/], Aurora [https://getaurora.dev/] and Bazzite [https://bazzite.gg/]. These systems are waay more reliable and easy to update, especially when using them only once a year or so. “Recommended Distros” like Linux Mint, Ubuntu or Fedora can get really messy as the traditional package managers have extremely many breaking points, resulting in failing updates or upgrades and you needing to learn a lot of technical things. There are ongoing issues on dualbooting for these systems [https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/147408] and setting them up is generally worth a try. In short, it should work if you create a second /boot/efi partition, and select the system to boot in your BIOS, instead of using the Linux GRUB bootloader to also boot Windows, like it is done in many dual-boot setups. ___ ::: # Result In the end you should have a minimal Windows system with removed and replaced software. It will consume less RAM and do less without you asking it to. It will likely not train AI models with your data, upload your data into the cloud, or force you into subscription software. The system will be a bit more privacy friendly, but it still relies on Microsoft not reverting everything. Windows is a proprietary operating system, meaning even technical people cannot easily know what happens in there. You should never trust it with personal data and instead use a separate Linux system for that.

The best solution for privacy is to not use windows, seems like a good guide but even with all these modifications I would throw the computer in the dumpster and set it on fire before using it in any privacy sensitive or mission critical applications.

Linux runs fine these days, and with NTSync in the kernel and the work done on WINE and proton there really isn’t a need to use an operating system that abuses you and sells your data for profit.

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This is for people needing MSOffice, Adobe, AutoCAD and whatelse. This does not run in WINE, on purpose.

Just stop. Your comment does not help anyone.

Oh, works on my machine. Oh well.

  1. Go to linuxmint.com
  2. Download
  3. Write to usb with rufus
  4. Reboot using the usb
  5. Install
  6. Done

Wow windows never looked so good!

boredsquirrel
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True. Windows 10 is atrocious. I have to say, a debloated Win11 feels almost too good.

So, lets focus on making Linux distros shiny and easy to use!

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That is the point, but Linux, as said above isn’t for everyone an option.

Comments in the web:

**Linux faces several key challenges that limit its broader adoption and effectiveness: **

  1. Software Compatibility Major commercial applications like Adobe Creative Suite and industry-standard business software often don’t run natively on Linux[1]. While alternatives exist, they frequently lack feature parity or full compatibility with industry file formats.

  2. Hardware Support Complexity Device drivers and hardware compatibility remain inconsistent. According to ZDNET, even basic tasks like printer setup can require manual configuration[2]. Multiple competing package formats (deb, rpm, flatpak, snap) create confusion for software installation[3].

  3. Fragmented Development Focus The Linux ecosystem suffers from too many competing distributions and desktop environments. As MIT researcher Jonathan Birge notes, “It’s downright laughable that an OS with single digit market share would further dilute its market share by having two competing desktops”[4].

  4. Learning Curve Despite improvements in user-friendly distributions like Ubuntu, Linux still requires more technical knowledge than Windows or macOS for many tasks[1:1]. The command line remains necessary for certain operations, intimidating new users.

*(With this point I am not in total agreement, Windows with its plug & play and intuitive UI only SEEMS more simple, but to remove the bad habits, bloatware, telemetrias and other crap, are required a more advanced user to get it, entering quickly into Comanche territory. I think that Windows need a more advanced user as modern Linux distros) * 5. Support Structure Unlike commercial operating systems, Linux lacks centralized support. Users must rely on community forums and documentation that can be overwhelming for beginners[3:1]. Enterprise-level support often requires expensive consulting contracts.

  1. Market Share Impact With desktop market share around 3%, many software vendors can’t justify developing and maintaining Linux versions of their applications[4:1]. This creates a negative feedback loop - fewer applications lead to fewer users, which leads to less software development.

Summary: the best OS is allways the one which best fits the individual needs, a perfect OS for everyone don’t exist. Every OS has its drawbacks, certainly Windows the most, but at least it’s possible to fix.


  1. 7 Reasons Why Linux Isn’t Dominating the Desktop OS Market - MUO ↩︎ ↩︎

  2. Why don’t more people use desktop Linux? I have a theory you might not like - ZDNET ↩︎

  3. What Are the Disadvantages of the Linux OS (Operating System)? ↩︎ ↩︎

  4. Why Linux is failing on the desktop | Jonathan Birge ↩︎ ↩︎

If you don’t think the modern Linux distro are shiny and easy to use, how long has it been since you tried? There are plenty of feature complete distros that are shiny and modern and comfortable to start using as a lifelong windows user

I use PC before MS DOS times and I also used several Linux distros in the past, last Kubuntu and Mint, always in dual boot. But I never saw big advantages above a gutted Windows, but problems with a lot of apps which I needed. Currently I’m on a heavy cleaned W11 which works fast, stable and exactly how I want 100%, why because of this I have to change it, installing another OS? There are no practical reasons for it.

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I am daily driving Linux…

Mainstream distros are not great products. Downstreams like uBlue do a good job, but have their own issues.

I tried switching to linux permanently three times. Each time it got easier and more polished until eventually I didn’t go back.

🚀 😄

I know you think you’re being clever. But what you really are is arrogant. Telling someone the answer to their problem is to do as you do, instead of helping them with their issue.

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I refuse to help people with installing any versions of windows out of ethical reasons, just like some tattooist refuse to tattoo people in the face or give them similarly stupid tattoos.

Yes, I’m arrogant enough to think I know better than those who haven’t considered the issue at all.

It’s fine to refuse to help, but offering your unsolicited opinion on windows instead of helping is just rude.

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I think it’s a rather human thing to do, explaining oneself when refusing to lend a hand. I also think warning friends, family and those I care for about what I consider dangerous to be quite nice.

I suppose we just have to agree to disagree about how we interact and care for our fellow humans.

I’m one of those morons that really hates himself so is running systems that are highly optimized (hardened, custom kernels, no systemd) and all I can say, yes, mint cheff’s kiss

Exactly. I used to play with installing different Linux distros all the time, just to see what was available. And when you use Linux Mint, your computer just fucking works. You install the damn thing, and then you just use it, and use it, and use it until the fucking wheels fall off.

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This. Is. About. People. Needing. Windows. Only. Software.

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I’d ask them to consider their dependence on windows only apps. If they want help with installing linux I’m happy to help, but I’m not an enabler there to help perpetuate their negative dependence.

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You can’t do this if your job depends on using such software. And there is a ton

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Sure, many jobs require people to use unethical, but legal tools and methods. I used to work somewhere like that - and what ever OS they had installed was irrelevant because it was their equipment, their systems and I didn’t use work stuff for personal things.

But really, are you describing someone dependent on a job or someone dependent on certain windows-exclusive applications? Are they forced to use their personal equipment for work stuff?

Yeah, its damn solid. In the same vein I am testing the atomic release of fedora, really hard to break that thing, same goes for bazzite.

Now i’m thinking … an atomic release of mint would be … wow

I don’t know much about atomic releases. Is that in any way similar to immutable distros such as NixOS? If so, and you ran mid in that way, it ought to be damn near impossible to break.

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You obviously didnt read the post

You obviously didn’t format it.

boredsquirrel
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Format what?

Why exactly would I waste my time reading about how to upgrade to Windows 11?

Edit: It was tongue and cheek. And apparently, all the upvotes got it. Well, you’re the only one who said anything about it.

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If it makes you happy to feel superior…

I’d just replace Rufus with Ventoy. 😉

Best concept for a piece of software I’ve discovered after being a happy Rufus user for years. 🙂

Ventoy is so goated, I used Rufus then Balena for ages, then YUMI, and finally Ventoy. I’ve got a 128gb tiny USB attached to my phone case with every OS and utility I could need with over 80gb still free for file storage. Being able to download an iso and copy it with no software is huge, like in an emergency I could download an ISO on my phone if needed

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Guys can you please read the post before writing random nonsense.

  1. This is for people NEEDING windows only software
  2. Ventoy is useless for the things I want to achieve. Rufus allows to change a bunch of things with a single click, like offline account, cloud, telemitry, bitlocker
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How do you want to read this Brick above without bleeding eyes?

Andi Summary:

How to Upgrade to Windows 11 While Maintaining Privacy and Control

Before You Start

  1. Back up all important files to an external drive or cloud storage
  2. Verify system compatibility using Microsoft’s PC Health Check app
  3. Disable third-party antivirus software temporarily to prevent installation conflicts

Most Efficient Method

  1. Download the Windows 11 ISO file directly from Microsoft’s website
  2. Mount the ISO by right-clicking and selecting “Mount”
  3. Run setup.exe as administrator from the mounted drive
  4. During installation, select “Keep personal files and apps” for fastest transition

Privacy-Focused Settings

  1. During initial setup, decline optional data collection and analytics
  2. Skip the “complete installation” prompts for Edge browser and OneDrive backup
  3. Go to Settings > Privacy & Security after installation to disable unwanted tracking features

Maintain Control

  1. Move the Start menu back to the left: Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Taskbar behaviors
  2. Restore classic context menus and file explorer views for better efficiency
  3. Set up default apps through Settings > Apps > Default apps to avoid Microsoft’s preferred applications

Recovery Options

  • Within 10 days of upgrading, you can roll back to Windows 10 through Settings > System > Recovery
  • Keep your Windows 10 backup for 30 days until you’re comfortable with Windows 11

Sources:

  • PCWorld - How to upgrade to Windows 11: Every option explained
  • Prajwal Desai - Best Guide to Upgrade to Windows 11
  • PCWorld - How to update from Windows 10 to Windows 11

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I’ll add also WindHawk, which is imperative in W11

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Uhm this is a link. Click on it.

Meh. Pretty useless IMHO. There are plenty of tricks to apply after this basic stuff and even then, they will try to insert new telemetry on every small update. It’s now worth the fight. Try to switch to Linux mint and have a dual boot for relevant software like Adobe.

Yes, dual boot is an option, but for certain things user need to use Windows. But you can make Windows a valid, fast and private OS, not so easy but possible. Telemetries re a minor problem and easy to avoid not needed. My W11 instalation has less than 1 GB and there is nothing working in the background which I don’t want. Certainly I don’t use any of the default Windows apps, nor the infame powersHell. Only the Defender and security updates.

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Lemmy users try not to be insufferable when Windows is mentioned (Challenge) (Impossible)

I mean, this is about privacy, is it not? It’s pretty well-known by now that Windows mines your data.

It’s either private or it’s Windows.

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It is clearly mentioned that

  1. A huge amount of people use Windows 10 or older. Being a privacy elietist does not change that
  2. This is for people needing windows software
  3. The result is fine but still not private, simply a more reasonable OS

The currently largest single source of ewaste in the world should be criticized at every turn.

To be fair, while Microsoft is absolutely vile for such restrictions, I think people overestimate how many people would switch computers just to get Windows 11. It’s probably a concern for big corporations indeed, but regular users? I don’t think so. Most people don’t see anything wrong with staying on an OS that doesn’t receive updates. A lot of them already do so - on their phones, because the support is so short! I am now in the process of switching my father to Linux, and it’s genuinely hard to explain him why he has to get used to a different OS: his reaction to “But Windows 10 would no longer receive security updates!” is “So what?”. Windows 7 probably would’ve still had a high market share if 10 had a similar system requirements change.

Every work from home person and every corporate end point will be upgrading; simply due to legal liability for the corporations. That alone is hundreds of millions of pcs and laptops getting thrown out (because anyone in IT knows no corpo is going to pay the extra hours to recycle properly).

Average users with no liability? Plenty will stay on win 10 until their use case no longer works, i.e. when steam dropped win vista compatibility, but plenty will be scared enough to upgrade.

The weird part will be seeing who sidegrades to a tablet in the corporate environment. Many android tablets can do everything needed for office work, and don’t have the same security cross section. Most app front ends are electron anyway these days so its not like x86 is needed.

lol wtf

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Hahaha! Please someone. Help the poor darling.

He’s exactly a week early.

To be fair, a bunch of old scientific closed sourced applications run only on WinXP or 7. Maybe it’s aimed at those people. But I don’t know any that require 10 or 11 that don’t have alternatives…

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Then they need a VM with Win7, not to install that piece of parasitic garbage as a host OS.

Remind me of the community name/métier again, please?

I don’t disagree lol

Phew. You got me! Really had me going!

Er, your instructions don’t kill all the telemetry that makes Win11 so privacy invasive.

Unfortunately, your comments about security are spot-on — there have been a number of improvements in the latest Win11 releases that were never added to Win10.

So while Win10 can be tweaked to be a relatively private OS, you need to update to the latest Win11 for security, or switch to a non-Microsoft OS.

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Mind to tell me what is missing then? NextDNS or Portmaster could be used, but they add more complexity. And as said, Windows should not be considered a safe OS so hardening it is kinda useless

Every OS nowadays need a good DNS server and better DNScrypt above. An app to control the traffic, like Portmaster or Pi-Hole is also recommended, irrelevant in which OS. Most activity of everyone is online and there is important to protect the privacy, because there is the biggest privacy hole, not in the OS but PEBCAC

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That’s the point. Windows 11 cannot be made to be a private OS. So you have to adjust your privacy model instead if you want to use it.

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Ok so there is no point?

What you said is mentioned in the post multiple times. Poorly, node.js garbage like Adobe creative garbage blocks Linux for no reason, so Windows is needed.

you misspelled /c/funny

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