A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don’t promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
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Revolt is supposed to be a privacy-focused alternative to Discord. Haven’t used it myself. Is it promising? Will it ever gain traction?
It’s promising but it’s very small. I’ve not really found a “home” on that place.
I like Discord. But it’s not for privacy. Matrix seems to be pretty good.
There’s a privacy-friendly Discord out there called Revolt. Honestly, though, it doesn’t bug me if the chat is on Discord. I will not use it, even if it is on Matrix or Revolt.
They always glow af
Could somebody just create a Matrix group/channel/room/space already?
There are plenty already, why not a joint?
More solidarity/less division would be nice but it doesn’t mean that some individuals wouldn’t need to prove themselves to the tasks.
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Just take your drama and leave
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Well, one thing I’ve done is block this community+you and not waste my time.
So have fun with that.
privacy communities are a joke. dont trust any of them
They always glow af
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Out of curiosity, why Matrix and not these other options:
The main thing they lack is an easy to use Discord to [XMPP, simplex, session] bridge, If they have that then you could just hop on whichever you prefer and be in touch with the group. Love it or hate it, discord is the top chat app for the moment and being able to interact with it is a necessity.
Matrix has basically come in to place as IRC “2.0” with developers, nearly every fediverse project has Matrix channels, most open source projects in general are starting to have them. XMPP has many years on Matrix but it never took off in regards to that very critical niche of early adopters, developers and power users. XMPP was a good competetor to the web 1.0 chat apps of AIM and MSN but Discord and other apps are much more rich content focused.
Simplex seems to only have a command line interface for PC, it als owould be pretty clunky for groups i think, I have yet to see anyone advertise a Simplex “group chat” in the way they would a discord server, but perhaps there are examples out there.
Session is somewhat better but hinges on the success of a cryptocurrency for its continued development so thats a no from me, also seems to have a lot of scammers although perhaps not as bad as telegram.
Matrix has clients listed on F-Droid.
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Oh man, Telegram is a total cesspit. Unfortunately there are several l#Ukraine related channels I’d like to follow on there, but I’ve resisted the temptation so far.
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Hi there! The links in your response are not clickable for Lemmy users, here are the clickable versions: !privacy@lemmy.ml
Matrix is also decentralized/federated, has encryption integrated into the protocol and enjoys a broad adoption and public support. It also has pretty good integration of bots and even other message protocol services like IRC via “bridges”. The chat clients are pretty good too; Element is pretty much available for every platform but there’s other one’s which are more focussed on Desktop or mobile usage, depending on how you primarily use it.
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it does sound like a joke
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You say that, but I see no evidence that Lemmy is a good place for privacy either, yet here you are. I know upvotes and down votes are public and I know that your post are freely shared and stored across the fediverse.
I’ll take “what’s a public forum” for 50!
yeah no shit it is a public forum
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I don’t mean this in a sort of “gotcha” way, but why shouldn’t those things be public on this sort of platform? That seems like the bare minimum for a community to prosper
I don’t mind if they are or aren’t either way, but it doesn’t make sense to tear down discord for essentially the same thing if you’re ok with Lemmy doing it. Whether they should or shouldn’t is another question. Also, it’s possible for my upvotes and down votes to be collected but hidden much like it is on reddit.
People can see who down votes their comments? Or servers/instances have the ability to know?
Everyone can see votes. On the bottom of a comment or post beside boost is more, you hit more and a menu opens, you hit activity on that menu and you see all interactions with that comment or post with usernames attached.
Fwiw, this isn’t a thing on Lemmy. Not that it’s not available given enough effort, but it’s not programmed to be immediately available to everyone.
That’s true for one single instance. But I’d think it’d be harder for your non home instances to track your votes without them being exposed in some way. Right?
Nah, every instance knows who up/down voted any post, reddit knew this data too but now anyone can spin up an instance to get it.
Which is kind of mandatory for how they’ve designed Lemmy. If you share upvotes between instances, then you’ve gotta provide sources. Otherwise it’s too easy for one instance to manipulate all the others.
You could not share upvotes between instances, but that would really damage small instances. Imagine going to a small instance and instead of the Reddit front page you get the Reddit new page.
Count me out. Let me know when you revive the chat room on Matrix.
Never knew there is one. Where is I mentioned?
In the sidebar.
Jeeze! Even I have a discord to matrix bridge and my entire community is like 20 people, I think 2 of us use matrix.
Security experts are not on discord. Sounds like a honeypot.