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I’m blocked from the article, but as someone who used to work in the industry I’m going to hazard what I think is a safe guess, and which is an under discussed aspect of intelligence.
If you put 5 cctv cameras in the worst parts of the city, you can pay someone $20/hour and have them monitored 24/7. The person’s one job is to call in a crime when it occurs and vector in police. As long as they’re not terminally addicted to instagram, you have that area covered.
Bump that up to 10,000 cameras and you run into a problem. You’re not going to hire 2000 people to watch them. You’re going to try to come up with something clever, maybe, that allows you to track back to a crime that was otherwise reported, but real time responses are out the window.
Even those that supported the development of the levels of surveillance that Snowden exposed have to acknowledge that looking at everything means you’re looking at nothing. The signal to noise ratio goes to absolute shit. It’s actually worse than useless because you’re thinking you’re monitoring, but you’re really not because you’re drowning in noise. It’s like they teach every yuppie in B school - if everything is a priority, then nothing is a priority. There’s a known phenomenon in defense and intelligence to center in on the gee whiz aspects of technology and lose sight of the actual mission.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist and as much as I dislike the current government of Israel, I don’t think this was some kind of nefarious plot. I think it was a massive fuck up thats going to have a body count in the tens of thousands and that will change the history of the region for a decade.
AI will watch us all effortlessly soon.
Did you read their comment? AI will still produce noise. That’s the point
Yeah I understand your opinion, but I have no doubt that AI will not drown in noise at all, just like it’s not drowning in noise now when it’s scanning billions of web pages.
Monitoring billions of people in real time and watching for patterns will be very easy. For some reason, people think we are going to have today’s AI in the future. :) It’s like they can’t imagine what computers were like 20 years ago, or 50 years ago. AI will accelerate even more because it can work together with other AI around the clock to reach exponential evolution.
It will connect to everything, our phone signals, cars, credit cards, medical records, movement patterns… This is really simple for AI.
There are patterns to everything we do. We wake up similar times, we drive similar routes, we talk in similar ways, we dress in similar ways… All that stuff will be monitored automatically.
You may think it will become too many signals but Ai will also handle looking at the signals. It’s not going to be people looking at this data until someone is flagged, and the algorithms will become better and better.
AI produces noise. Just ask all the people who were arrested because of faulty AI
Okay… that’s a pretty bleak picture.
Sooo… how do we beat AI surveillance?
I know, sorry… Can’t help but be honest about these things.
We can’t beat Ai survellience I think. People will get used to it but we won’t be happy.
You will have a citizen score and if you speak up, it goes down and you get flagged as trouble. This leads to all sorts of issues with getting loans, jobs etc etc. So nobody will do anything. We will not even complain because it may be picked up by cameras and microphones installed everywhere we go “for our security”.
Well, there are some hurdles to overcome first. Power consumptions for training is huge but maybe solve able in the future. Data storage for all kinds of metadata? Maybe, big data is a thing but also needs power. Streaming many devices to distributed data lakes? There will be a Problem. Data plans are mostly limited, streaming drains power of phones etc. Not very attractive for the consumer. My prediction is, that we’ll see personal AI assistants, they work on your phones or with home stations. Remind you of dates, motivate you to work out, help you write a letter, turn on the light, heat up the stove etc. The neat part is that this personal AI primary operates locally, so even with 6-7 cameras in and outside your home you won’t get any problems with power or data plans. The companies providing this service will not have to provide huge storages and computing power. But, they’ll be able fetch data, apply new algorithms to your personal assistant and collect their subscription fees.
That solutions gets us by the balls. It has advantages and only slight to none inconveniences for the light minded. So peoples, companies and States will thrive that this comes true.
Sry for some spelling or orthography mistakes, I rarely type and speak english.
It’s fine… it’s not your responsibility to come up with answers to these things.
But we’re going to have to find ways if we don’t want our children and grandchildren growing up in bombed-out open-air prisons as well.
Yeah I would love if we do.
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