Wire - Simply the most Secure Messenger
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Always-on end-to-end encrypted instant messaging, voice- and videoconferencing with up to 100 participants - future proof with MLS integration

It’s based on Signal protocol and it’s also open source. However, unlike Signal it doesn’t harvest phone numbers.

https://github.com/wireapp

Does Wire still store metadata on who you message? That seems potentially more damaging than Signal’s phone number requirement, at least since the switch to being able to hide your number from everyone.

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Wire doesn’t require any personally identifying data to register though.

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Your right, they could just read any of your messages if they feel like it however. Wouldn’t you rather have a phone number associated with an unreadable account? Or no “personally identifying info (besides your entire device…)” but Wire can read and see all of what you send.

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Given that Wire uses Signal protocol, are you suggesting that e2e encryption in Signal is not secure?

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No, what I’m saying is that if Wire still sends the passwords for the encryption in plaintext to their servers, thats bad. Signal doesn’t do that afaik.

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I agree that would be a weird thing to do, is there a source for this?

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Definitely search on your own, I was only going based off this. Could be fixed by now!

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Yeah that’s pretty bad, and I agree that I wouldn’t trust a company that did something like that going forward.

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