Wire - Simply the most Secure Messenger
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Always-on end-to-end encrypted instant messaging, voice- and videoconferencing with up to 100 participants - future proof with MLS integration

It’s based on Signal protocol and it’s also open source. However, unlike Signal it doesn’t harvest phone numbers.

https://github.com/wireapp

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Your right, they could just read any of your messages if they feel like it however. Wouldn’t you rather have a phone number associated with an unreadable account? Or no “personally identifying info (besides your entire device…)” but Wire can read and see all of what you send.

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Given that Wire uses Signal protocol, are you suggesting that e2e encryption in Signal is not secure?

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No, what I’m saying is that if Wire still sends the passwords for the encryption in plaintext to their servers, thats bad. Signal doesn’t do that afaik.

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I agree that would be a weird thing to do, is there a source for this?

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Definitely search on your own, I was only going based off this. Could be fixed by now!

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Yeah that’s pretty bad, and I agree that I wouldn’t trust a company that did something like that going forward.

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