Couple of months prior, I read an article on Mozilla, where they did a research on automakers and found none comply to good privacy measures. I am planning to buy a used car. I want to know how the data is collected and transmitted.

The car comes with a connected app though I am not planning to use it. It also has apple car play and android auto. Should I use those? The article states some manufacturers even records sexual activities. How are they transmitting these informations? Through connected phones?

My use is fairly basic, I want to use the Bluetooth audio system in the car for listening to music on my phone. I use maps on my phone.

What about car servicing? Can they access stored information?

Drive older cars and learn how to fix them!

Easy - just keep pouring money into them, always, forever.

Edit: yes yes but this anecdote where an old car you heard about/own works forever for free

Depends on the make and model. Some cars can just keep going with low maintenance, but I do see your point!

I prefer not burning fossil fuels

Older EV?

For example I think the old leafs use the 3G data connection. Now that the 3G system has been retired no more data collecting!!

At least that is what I understand.

Most parts of Europe still have 2G service, so 3G isn’t fully dissapearing for at least the next 20 years there.

USA still has 2G, but 3G is definitely no longer around. Those frequencies have been portioned out for 4G LTE and 5G.

You’re right. I had a quick look on Wikipedia and it seems that 3G is getting shut down sooner due to frequency overlap with newer generations as you’ve said. 2G seems to not have so much overlap so it’s living longer.

I thought "if 2G is still around and is x years old and still isn’t fully disabled, then 3G which is y years old must have at least y-x years left. But alas, I was wrong, and thank you for correcting me.

So walk.

So electric derived from coal is much better?

No, electric derived from solar or wind or hydro is best. The easiest way for homeowners to charge their cars is solar.

That’s dope. I didn’t know that was realistic.

#1 yes

#2 it can come from other, cleaner sources

What a terrible take.

First off, unironically yes on account of higher efficiency in electric engines over combustion engines.

Second, what grids still run on 100% coal? And why would they keep doing that long-term, given that coal is just shit on its own merits?

Sorry, I am not current. Didn’t know that solar is a lot more efficient and cheap nowadays. https://www.popsci.com/story/environment/cheap-renewable-energy-vs-fossil-fuels/

Where I live in Colorado, the grid is dominantly coal but they are slowly transitioning. Thank you for your insight.

32% coal vs 39% renewables, with natural gas making up the majority of the remainder - https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CO#tabs-4

Looks pretty good, but the western slope is seriously lacking the infrastructure so far.

Oh come on don’t be annoying

Oof guys. It was an honest question. Thank you all for the insight.

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