“We need to go beyond Signal” – How today’s AWS outage shows the weaknesses of centralized apps | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

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Instead of dismissing Signal, I wonder if it could be changed to support a federated model.

Just a thought, because Signal has seen widespread adoption. Getting people to change their messenger is hard.

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What about a peer-to-peer model with relay servers like SimpleX?

Hanrahan
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Maube but Simplex really sucks balls IMO

bluemoon
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read cryptographers blogs. kike Saotok the furry iirc. also simplex has a cryptography report that it has failed and not implemented.

Signal is against federation.

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Andy Yen, the founder and CEO of Proton, which developed one of the best VPN and encrypted email services around, suggested that the Signal AW-based outage shows that “an European alternative not run on Big Tech cloud will be necessary to safeguard strategic autonomy.”

Not supporting the puppet government of said Big Tech could be another good strategic thing to do, don’t you think Andy?

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He doesn’t. He said that on the issue of privacy the Republicans were more responsive than the Democrats.

Kami
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This was his tweet:

Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Dec 4, 2024 · 10:27 PM UTC

Didn’t age well, if you ask me.

Which is actually crazy.

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And then you use a centralized service by Google to redirect the link rather than just using the link itself. 🙁

Here’s the actual link: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

Oh jeez, that’s embarrassing. I’m a Noob poster. I’ll do better next time.

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I would definitely encourage you to edit the link for this post to include the correct one!

Yep. Fixed it the moment I replied.

Too late. OP is now noted as a google plant. I’ll stick to more reliable source like the other people on this sub

Matrix was developed by an Israeli company so hard pass on that. Signal looks like the best we got. https://hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

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What exactly is your concern? It’s a decentralized service, so it’s not as if any of your data has to be controlled by them to use it

I can only understand the concern if it related to how many the chat room and users are mostly created in offical Matrix instance instead more be self-hosted and even that is a reach

Onion is also decentralized, and everyone knows it’s monitored by the alphabet agencies. So yeah, I’d consider a hidden encryption vulnerability a solid possibility.

Decentralized services habe one huge advantage: Most people don’t unterstand, how it works, where to register and do on. Additionally federation comes with lots of additional to get most of connections.

Therefore: Centralized is definitely the way but not using shitty big tech. Maybe backup infrastructure could also be a way.

And Proton? Couldn’t stop laughing.

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