I wanted to maybe start making PeerTubr videos, but then I realized I’ve never had to consider my voice as part of my threat model. A consequence that immediately comes to mind is potentially having your voice trained on by AI, but I’m not (currently) in a position where others would find it desirable to do so. Potentially in the future?

I’d like to know how your threat model handles your personal voice. And as a bonus, how would voice modulators help your voice in/prevent your voice from being more flexible in your threat model? Thanks!

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Imo you shouldn’t let anyone silence your voice

Yes, to a degree. In my experience a lot of attackers will call phones and wait for you to say something to get a model of your voice.

When I answer a phone number I do not recognize, I don’t say “Hello” anymore. Instead I remain quiet for 10 seconds. If its a poorly made bot trying to scrape my voice, usually it hangs up within that time.

I am also more open to letting everything I don’t recognize ring through to my voice mail which uses the default response without my voice since these types of attacks started.

For peertube etc, I am unsure what the best solution is, but would be interested in what people here suggest!

You can find my voice at https://video.benetou.fr/ and elsewhere on the Internet because I did talks are conferences.

I’m not particularly worry by it … because I expect people who are important to me (family, friends, even colleagues) to be trained enough (because it’s not about intelligence) to contact me back (as they have my number, email, etc) if anything serious were to happen.

IMHO it’s mostly a problem for basic phishing attack where somebody is rushed to provide information. As soon as the person replies “OK let me call you back” then the whole threat disappears. Well… if the hacker did manage to control your phone number or your email that’s a totally different ballgame though but I assume we’re not talking at this level.

I’m not (currently) in a position where others would find it desirable to do so. Potentially in the future?

It’s hard to imagine a scenario where this would happen and your voice would not otherwise be available. For example, if you went into politics, then you’d be a target, but you’d already be speaking in public all the time. It only takes a few seconds of a voice sample to do this nowadays and it’ll only get easier from here.

Maybe just make a point to educate your family and friends on the risk of voice cloning so they don’t fall for phone scams.

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Create a secret passphrase - that only your family knows - that can be used to verbally verify it’s the real you and not a scam caller. Bonus points: create an alternate passphrase that can be used to signal that you’re under duress.

maybe better to use one time codes at that point, like we do with TOTP 2FA

Maybe, but if you’re burning codes in this scenario, you’ve got bigger problems to solve.

Very few YouTubers actually use their normal speaking voice. Keep an unusual formal cadence and be a little bit announcer-like.

You could also use a text-to-speech engine and wear a mask

Bonus points if you talk like an old timer from the 1920s.

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Easy, become a vtuber with a voice altering software 😎

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Legitimately my second thought, but I thought I’d get shut down here xd

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