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Because now he can access his bitcoins and donate to trump? :-)
Actually, the FBI seized his Bitcoin, then a corrupt agent stole it. Pretty wild
Edward Snowden next please!
Trump said he is a traitor
At least I can agree with Donnie on 1 thing. People choose to do drugs and kill themselves. Just let them do it. It’s not like they would harm the US healthcare system.
There is one?
That’s the joke.
This pardon seems justified to me. Nobody deserves “double life imprisonment plus 40 years, without the possibility of parole”, as far as I’m concerned. Yes, literally nobody. And here it’s even worse than that: the sentence was explicitly designed to be exemplary, i.e., to frighten others. That is just retribution, vengeance, posing as justice. America should be better than that.
I’m aware that this guy probably ordered two murders. The probably is important.
Nobody? What sentence would you give Hitler?
20 years maybe, then a permanent community-service mandate
are you joking, or…?
Not at all. Of course, I’m not American so my starting point is not that people are locked up for years for the tiniest offense
congrats, that’s not my starting point either, (or most Americans’…) thanks. just don’t exactly find leading the Holocaust as “the tiniest offense”
Did you know that the Norwegian shooter (who killed a very large number of unarmed young people with an automatic weapon in 2011) is already 2/3 of the way thru his sentence?
This was my point. Americans didn’t understand this and still don’t. Cultures have different conceptions of what purpose is served by punishment.
i am indeed aware other cultures exist. but i have a feeling most Norwegians still would want Hitler with more than 20 years. he affected the world and i’m sure you know that your view there is a little unorthodox.
i just looked up the Norwegian shooter because no i didn’t know about that, looks like 21 years is just the maximum civilian sentence in general. it can be extended, and he’s been denied parole multiple times including last year, and kept in solitary confinement… seems likely to be extended. The military penal code however, does indeed have life imprisonment, which i’m pretty sure is there for people like Hitler.
Chelsea Manning and Aaron Swartz also got ridiculous sentences. It’s a theme with cyber cases
It’s a theme with the US justice system. Doesn’t happen in Europe, even for genuinely bad crimes.
Happend in France a months ago. When there were riots after a cop killed a boy in the poor suburbs, one of our dear ministers (/s) asked for exemplary sentences and some of them took months of prison for packs of rice or energy cans…
The court has no evidence that he ordered murders and dismissed the charges in such a way that they can never be filed again.
The PDF referenced in 3: https://freeross.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Doc_14_Dismissal_Indictment_7-26-2018.pdf
Quoted site: https://freeross.org/false-allegations/
Not beyond reasonable doubt, no. But there was a preponderance of evidence, according to the court. I’m sure you already know this.
In criminal law you need overwhelming proof. So I agree with you, it’s absolutely correct that he was not found guilty of this.