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I can agree with this, at least.
VPN into some country that isn’t the US of A.
How about you stop assuming everyone on the internet lives in the USA?
Maybe in your silly country.
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If that legitimately happens and makes it into law in a broadly enforceable way rather than a “this person who I don’t like was caught checks notes watching porn! book em!”, which is definitely what it would be like basically every law that came before it, I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less. Which I think is maybe a good rule of thumb, that if your law would collapse society if it were enforced equally, it should not be a law.
Do not underestimate the power of the gooners when they are kept from the goon.
Oh sure. Famously, whenever a worksite implements a blacklist on pornographic websites, the workers immediately begin screaming and flailing and eating each others faces.
Generally speaking, the power of the gooner is to compile 500 TB of questionably legal pornographic data on a PLEX server in their basements and ride out the porn-pocolypse as a bunch of horny hermits.
But the theory that this is going to be the last straw and hordes of angry horny dudes are going to take to the streets in a mass labor action is about as likely as the one where Tech Bros were going to take to the streets over Net Neutrality or women were going to have a sex boycott over the Abortion Ban or the hippies were going to tear down Wall Street over the drug war.
Americans are shockingly pliant and far more prone to simply turn to black market cartels than actively resist policing.
I was being hyperbolic, but, a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze. Illegal material can’t be protected by legal means, obviously, and so in order to trade it, you basically have to create your own police force, your own privatized military. a gang, a mob. That’s how we got nascar and shit, the rumrunners. If you made porn illegal, I’d imagine it would just be added as kind of another form of valuable property which would be traded around by gangs which would see increased power and are kind of inherently anti-institutional. So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it’s a form of anti-institutional action, I’d say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.
I’d also say, you know, I mean, the hippies did go to wall street in 2008, so that’s something. We had the big liberal feminist pussy hat shit sometime after that, which I’m not as familiar with. More recently we had BLM which was possibly the highest level of street marching we’ve seen basically ever, and then we’ve seen like two riots to try and overturn elections, one of which was successful. We’ve seen more recent campus protests which are still constantly ongoing despite a lack of media attention. I don’t think it’s as absurd as you think, that something kind of stupid like porn getting banned might be the tipping point, especially considering the pretty steady upward trend that we’ve seen with political action concerning other somewhat disconnected issues.
Quite a few political families profited handsomely from alcohol prohibition. The Kennedys are probably the most famous, but the political system was rife with corruption. If you’ve ever watched Boardwalk Empire, the story was based on the notorious Atlantic City sheriff Enoch Johnson.
The ability to selectively enforce prohibition gives you ample opportunity to profit from the gaps in the system. Sex work has long had a relationship with local politicians and police, and I have no doubt that criminalization of porn would create an huge market for kickbacks to enforcement organizations.
It’s like 12 at night for me so this might be a little bit rambly and stupid, be prepared:
Yeah, that’s pretty true, but I also mentioned that to some extent in my OP, that selective enforcement is the case with basically every law that has ever existed. I’m not really a stranger to the institutional fuckery that happens in the illegal market either, gary webb and allat, but also the classic uncontrollable mexican government drug cartel shenaniganery. I just also think, maybe to the core of what I’m getting at, that people shouldn’t also be like, immediately snap judgement in terms of condemning illegal action on the basis of it’s illegality necessarily. The black panthers collapsed and all the other civil rights organizations that were around at the time. MLK probably got assassinated by the feds, Fred Hampton definitely did, I think Malcolm X probably also did, but those organizations, or so I am told, didn’t dissolve immediately, they just began a long process of ostracization and alienation and probably atomization as suburban poverty increases more recently, until they basically just became normal gangs, as they were engaging in illegal activity before, and selling drugs, or illegal property, is a quick way to make cash to fund ventures. I dunno I still need to find a good place to watch “the bastards of the party”, I think that documentary has something to say about that. Also never heard of boardwalk empire
These laws will never be used against those who are passing them.
Americans getting dumber and dumber over the years. i thought the “stupid white men” era was the peak, but i stand corrected
To everyone interested: Mullvad and IVPN accept XMR as payments and do not store logs.
Keep your bits going the way you want them lads
There’s a certain special irony in Crypto-Bros like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk bankrolling JD Vance so he can push Project 2025 through Congress and force gooners to kickback a rent to Crypto-Bros in order to jerk it.
Libertarian Dystopia here we come!
I’m pretty sure there’s nearly zero overlap between Monero users/people who actually use cryptocurrency as payment and “crypto bros” (those who use Bitcoin and shitcoins as investments)
Streisand Effect here we… cum?
Don’t forget that Republicans consider pretty much anything featuring gays as sexual and pornographic.
My Phone would be considered nuclear waste in the US apparently… O_o
Canada will be implementing very similar to this Poilievre gets elected.
Watching Republicans ban 4chan would be funny.
Nip it in the bud.
Project 2025 is 100% political and partisan. Due to that, there are false claims being made about Project 2025.
I condem the organization but not all statements are true due to it’s entirely political nature.
Perhaps there are some false claims, but this isn’t one of them. This is their proxy for making being openly gay illegal again because they consider any queer representation to be pornographic.
I really don’t get the fearmongering around Project 2025. It’s just a piece the Heritage Foundation released as a giant wishlist. Trump himself said he didnt support it over on Truth Social. And if congress is still split, there will be total gridlock, so even IF this was the official party platform, nothing would get done.
There is a lot of solid ideas in the document, but there is also a lot of hot dogwater.
As for porn, it is protected under the 1st amendment. There has been several court cases about this. If a law was passed, it would be challenged and likely struck down. Having said the most of the rhetoric in the document really points to the availability of books like Gender Queer being freely available in school libraries. This wasn’t explicitly stated in the document, but you can draw conclusions from the context of the rhetoric. But yes one of the authors said they wanted porn banned.
Now, preventing kids from accessing porn is a reasonable ask, but this ask has to come with a measure of privacy. Nobody wants their ID floating around in a PornHub database being tied to the type of porn they watch.
Along the same lines, parents should have a say in what books their child is allowed to consume within reason. I read gender queer out of curiosity after all of the outrage about it. That book should not be free to grab by minors. Perhaps there should be a “restricted section” accessible via permission slip from the parents. That way the books can remain present and accessable to those whose parents say it’s okay. It’s just an idea, but one that I have yet to see floated.
And he’s got a proven track record of honesty so no reason to doubt that.
Have you been living under a rock this year or just pretending to be unaware of how blatantly corrupt SCOTUS is?
Then they should consider spending some time parenting their children instead of shopping for red baseball caps, harassing school librarians, and consuming culture war propaganda.
Wdym they literally have a massive PDF hosted on their website that you can download and read.
Politicos hate when you read their own words back to them